What's wrong with us? This thread was meant to point out how Robroy (and others) love to compare entirely benign things to Nazis. It wasn't meant to cover serious economic questions.
In other words, how did an off-topic thread end up so far off topic?
What's wrong with us? This thread was meant to point out how Robroy (and others) love to compare entirely benign things to Nazis. It wasn't meant to cover serious economic questions.
In other words, how did an off-topic thread end up so far off topic?
Without trolls, we're forced to talk about things which are actually worth discussing... and on this blog, that'd be real estate and economics.
Another one? I mean, we already had the lady from Minnesota claim most of the democratic party are ... what did she claim again, that they are socialist infiltrators whose goal is to destroy America...?
The other thing I don't understand is how we got into this situation where socialism == totalitarian dictatorship of WWII proportions. Russia was communist, not socialist of course. And unless I'm quite mistaken Germany was capitalist. Meanwhile, the list of socialist nations which do not violate human rights is quite long...essentially every first world nation (including USA).
What these people should say instead is that they are concerned our nation is moving towards too much socialization and they fear it could hurt America's economic or military progress as well as demoralizing citizens. If you state your remarks in that manner, we can talk.
Mussolini had a political/economic theory called fascism. Painting fascism with broad brush strokes, he wanted to merge government and industry in a way that he believed would stand for a thousand years.
Therefore, all of this government privitization of banks is a step towards fascism.
Therefore the current government is like one of Hitler's partners.
Mussolini had a political/economic theory called fascism. Painting fascism with broad brush strokes, he wanted to merge government and industry in a way that he believed would stand for a thousand years.
Therefore, all of this government privitization of banks is a step towards fascism.
Therefore the current government is like one of Hitler's partners.
The main difference between what we have and what Fascism is is that Fascism requires a dictator.
Not really. I was using a very narrow definition of fascism. In truth, the definitions for fascism are all over the map. Everyone seems to think it means something different. I bet Mussolini didn't even have a good definition of what he wanted.
The only thing everyone can agree on it that it was based on the analogy of a bunchof stick tied together into an unbreakable bundle.
If I were to try my hand at a Robroy Nazi Analogy I would start with the 3 foundational principals (ignoring Hitler as an attempt to move outside the box).
1) Analogy must involve Jews. After all, no other group in history has been picked on like they have - note the systematic/widespread abuse of Native Americans, Blacks, Gypsies, Armenians, Palestinians, Aborigines, Indian Untouchables, women, homosexuals, and perhaps Neanderthals (it's possible Homo Sapiens killed them off) cannot be considered as it cheapens the comparison of oneself as an older, white male to the Jew's plight.
2) Analogy must include gross misstatements of history: E.g. exactly two leaders in history ever ran on the mantra hope and change - Hitler and Satan.
3) Analogy must not actually be analogous. Simply stating the misconstrued historical argument and then comparing one's future self to the Jews is not only sufficient, but ample.
So, I refer you to the new Nazi analogy: Rome. In 1994, when I saw how powerful this nation had become, I started telling literally everyone I met how this was like when the Romans took control of Israel and during the Maccabean Revolt, the candles burned for 8 days instead of 1. It was that kind of miracle that I knew would be required for me and those like me to survive the coming darkness. You know, there's been only 2 nations that have tried to control the world - Rome and Satan (in the garden of Eden). I think USA will be the third.
Its getting pretty scary out there with some of the right wing crazies.
A lot of them seem to have just gone off the rails...
What is interesting is that they're becoming what they hate. They hate William Ayers, the Weathermen, Blank Panthers, etc of the 60s who were leftists that carried out violent acts against the government -- and they're the ones most petrified by the thought of terrorism. Before long we're going to be seeing right wing bombings, assassinations of democratic political figures, killings of abortion doctors, etc. All this happened under Clinton, but I'm worried that there doesn't seem to be any calls for restraint.
All that the left wing did after Bush stole the election(s) was to threaten to move to Canada or Europe and/or wish that we could split the country into the United States of Canada and Jesusland (that latter offer still stands).
DeMint said. "His proposal for amnesty for illegals. His support of global warming, cap-and-trade programs that will put another burden on our economy. And of course, his embrace of the bailout right before the election was probably the nail in our coffin this last election. And he has been an opponent of drilling in ANWR, at a time when energy is so important. It really didn't fit the label, but he was our package."
So, let me get this straight. McCain's rejection of some of the right's most dumbass positions has damaged the republican brand? I'm having a hard idea thinking of anything else that might damage the republican brand more if they are becoming this absurd.
I suppose, just off the cuff, if a broad group of republicans started to declare their own president elect was Hitler #2 months before he even took office. I mean, doing so might make you look pretty unpatriotic and dare I say unamerican. Almost like you are a fake American.
As it turns out, it was Obama's followers that reminded me of Hitler's followers. As Obama has exercised his position, he is clearly more like Mussolini.
BTW, I think I mentioned that I bought a small farm with a new home on it in central Kentucky on a handshake just two weeks before Obama was elected. I closed In August the next year (owner had to do the two year wait) and leased back to the owner for a while.
I finally left T-Mobile and moved out here last summer. Interestingly, the Seattle guy I most respected on freerepublic and I just touched base over the weekend. Would you believe he moved this summer to a small town on the SC coast for the same reason? The economy took longer to go down than I expected, and is looking to get as bad as, back in 2007, I considered to be a worst case scenario. Who knew just how much government atrocities would happen between then and now.
Meanwhile, I love having to chase groups of large wild turkeys out of my way as I drive down my driveway. They are quite delicious too. The longer we are here, the more we like it. There is also an area of Louisville called "The Highlands" that is a mishmash of Capitol Hill, Freemont and the U-district in one place, only a lot cleaner and not a bunch of liberal whackjobs running around. Their motto there is "Keep Louisville wierd" and they are. They have a couple of record/head shops that outdo anything Seattle has to offer.
But the bottom line is that, as I finish my 40x80x14 building (oh, and you don't need a building permit here if it is not a house!) in preparation for when the SHTF, I have a place to move my three daughters who all currently live in various condos in downtown Seattle.
BTW, after Obama's election I went all in to silver, gold and lead. The latter with a copper jacket. Turned out to be prudent.
And yeah, this is sort of an "I told you so" post. Let those with wisdom act on what they hear and read. The internet will serve you well. The MSM will serve you poorly.
One more Hitler reference. I'm just curious if this thread will need to be renamed after Obama is elected. Will Nazi comparisons no longer be strong enough? Will this have to become the Robroy Antichrist Countdown?
Funny you mention that. In my conversations with people regarding Obama, at least three have of their own accord, wondered out loud if he is the antichrist. I tell them all the same thing and have since late 2009: Either he IS the antichrist, and it'll take God to bring him down, or he is the most embarrassing presidency through which the American people have been forced to suffer and he will not finish his term.
You think things are bad for him now? Wait'll next summer, if he's even still in office then.
Mussolini had a political/economic theory called fascism. Painting fascism with broad brush strokes, he wanted to merge government and industry in a way that he believed would stand for a thousand years.
Therefore, all of this government privitization of banks is a step towards fascism.
Therefore the current government is like one of Hitler's partners.
And then there was GM and Chrysler. But I state the obvious. I just noticed that most of the guys on this thread and the hilarious Global Warming threads have not posted here for a year or more. Maybe they are busy, like I was (and still am,actually...).
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In other words, how did an off-topic thread end up so far off topic?
Without trolls, we're forced to talk about things which are actually worth discussing... and on this blog, that'd be real estate and economics.
Another one? I mean, we already had the lady from Minnesota claim most of the democratic party are ... what did she claim again, that they are socialist infiltrators whose goal is to destroy America...?
The other thing I don't understand is how we got into this situation where socialism == totalitarian dictatorship of WWII proportions. Russia was communist, not socialist of course. And unless I'm quite mistaken Germany was capitalist. Meanwhile, the list of socialist nations which do not violate human rights is quite long...essentially every first world nation (including USA).
What these people should say instead is that they are concerned our nation is moving towards too much socialization and they fear it could hurt America's economic or military progress as well as demoralizing citizens. If you state your remarks in that manner, we can talk.
Guys like this, are too irrational to work with.
Mussolini had a political/economic theory called fascism. Painting fascism with broad brush strokes, he wanted to merge government and industry in a way that he believed would stand for a thousand years.
Therefore, all of this government privitization of banks is a step towards fascism.
Therefore the current government is like one of Hitler's partners.
The main difference between what we have and what Fascism is is that Fascism requires a dictator.
Sorry, I'm just not very good at this. Maybe someone else would like to give it a shot.
The only thing everyone can agree on it that it was based on the analogy of a bunchof stick tied together into an unbreakable bundle.
1) Analogy must involve Jews. After all, no other group in history has been picked on like they have - note the systematic/widespread abuse of Native Americans, Blacks, Gypsies, Armenians, Palestinians, Aborigines, Indian Untouchables, women, homosexuals, and perhaps Neanderthals (it's possible Homo Sapiens killed them off) cannot be considered as it cheapens the comparison of oneself as an older, white male to the Jew's plight.
2) Analogy must include gross misstatements of history: E.g. exactly two leaders in history ever ran on the mantra hope and change - Hitler and Satan.
3) Analogy must not actually be analogous. Simply stating the misconstrued historical argument and then comparing one's future self to the Jews is not only sufficient, but ample.
So, I refer you to the new Nazi analogy: Rome. In 1994, when I saw how powerful this nation had become, I started telling literally everyone I met how this was like when the Romans took control of Israel and during the Maccabean Revolt, the candles burned for 8 days instead of 1. It was that kind of miracle that I knew would be required for me and those like me to survive the coming darkness. You know, there's been only 2 nations that have tried to control the world - Rome and Satan (in the garden of Eden). I think USA will be the third.
Is that like when housing values went up by 12% instead of 3% for 6 years?
You are making way too much sense for my level of comfort, RCC.
Also, those Neanderthals totally had it coming.
A lot of them seem to have just gone off the rails...
What is interesting is that they're becoming what they hate. They hate William Ayers, the Weathermen, Blank Panthers, etc of the 60s who were leftists that carried out violent acts against the government -- and they're the ones most petrified by the thought of terrorism. Before long we're going to be seeing right wing bombings, assassinations of democratic political figures, killings of abortion doctors, etc. All this happened under Clinton, but I'm worried that there doesn't seem to be any calls for restraint.
All that the left wing did after Bush stole the election(s) was to threaten to move to Canada or Europe and/or wish that we could split the country into the United States of Canada and Jesusland (that latter offer still stands).
Hilarious. Bizarro-Hitler (no army, spends his time hugging Jews, fighting for European peace, and had his ass handed to him by France).
Also, the republican party feels a lot closer to self-immolation today than it did a week ago - at least to me.
So, let me get this straight. McCain's rejection of some of the right's most dumbass positions has damaged the republican brand? I'm having a hard idea thinking of anything else that might damage the republican brand more if they are becoming this absurd.
I suppose, just off the cuff, if a broad group of republicans started to declare their own president elect was Hitler #2 months before he even took office. I mean, doing so might make you look pretty unpatriotic and dare I say unamerican. Almost like you are a fake American.
Final thought
BTW, I think I mentioned that I bought a small farm with a new home on it in central Kentucky on a handshake just two weeks before Obama was elected. I closed In August the next year (owner had to do the two year wait) and leased back to the owner for a while.
I finally left T-Mobile and moved out here last summer. Interestingly, the Seattle guy I most respected on freerepublic and I just touched base over the weekend. Would you believe he moved this summer to a small town on the SC coast for the same reason? The economy took longer to go down than I expected, and is looking to get as bad as, back in 2007, I considered to be a worst case scenario. Who knew just how much government atrocities would happen between then and now.
Meanwhile, I love having to chase groups of large wild turkeys out of my way as I drive down my driveway. They are quite delicious too. The longer we are here, the more we like it. There is also an area of Louisville called "The Highlands" that is a mishmash of Capitol Hill, Freemont and the U-district in one place, only a lot cleaner and not a bunch of liberal whackjobs running around. Their motto there is "Keep Louisville wierd" and they are. They have a couple of record/head shops that outdo anything Seattle has to offer.
But the bottom line is that, as I finish my 40x80x14 building (oh, and you don't need a building permit here if it is not a house!) in preparation for when the SHTF, I have a place to move my three daughters who all currently live in various condos in downtown Seattle.
BTW, after Obama's election I went all in to silver, gold and lead. The latter with a copper jacket. Turned out to be prudent.
And yeah, this is sort of an "I told you so" post. Let those with wisdom act on what they hear and read. The internet will serve you well. The MSM will serve you poorly.
You think things are bad for him now? Wait'll next summer, if he's even still in office then.