How is the Seattle Economy Doing?

This thread is just an open space to put what you notice about the local economy, as well as your own speculation as to what it means. This is a NO FACT zone. So make observations, make assumptions and entertain.

Examples:
Are stores you frequent more or less busy?
Are people at Starbucks opting for drip coffees instead of mocha frapachinos?
Is traffic lighter than normal?

Finally, for this post, forget about housing. We just want to know if the almighty consumer is still consuming at a reckless pace!

Comments

  • edited January 2008
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  • I have actually seen businesses as busy as ever (just look at Bell Square). Washington just moved up from #12 to #5 as The Best States for Business! With all the commercial construction & extremely low vacancy rates, I wouldnt be surprised to see WA as #1 next year.

    http://www.forbes.com/business/2007/07/ ... tates.html
  • finance wrote:
    I have actually seen businesses as busy as ever (just look at Bell Square). Washington just moved up from #12 to #5 as The Best States for Business! With all the commercial construction & extremely low vacancy rates, I wouldnt be surprised to see WA as #1 next year.

    http://www.forbes.com/business/2007/07/ ... tates.html

    Forbes = Meh

    Besides, I think you are skirting the question. Bell Square is busy with construction, but is it busy with buying?

    I was hoping to get some observations from people either about their shopping experiences, or even better from people who work in retail. Although, it's possible that real-estate is so far out of reach for anyone who works retail, that they don't even frequent this blog.
  • Harry Potter was half-full on Saturday night, downtown at the Meridian. Of course it was in 3 theaters.

    On the other hand, I had to visit 4 restaurants/bars in Fremont on hothothot Wednesday before finding a place I could get served in a timely fashion. Nobody had any interest in turning on an oven, I would guess.
  • Haven't noticed any difference in Belltown. Bars still seem to be packed every night, and the drunkards continue to keep me awake!!
  • I would argue that bar patronage would increase in a time of recession! Drink that booze! Get dumber! :lol:

    As someone who works in commercial real estate for a living, I can tell you that Seattle has hit a peak in lease rates and will begin to trend downward beginning in late 2008 (When a number of new buildings are finally completed). Although that is not the "canary in the coal mine" for the economy, that is where my industry is going.

    The low vacancy rates discussed previously are simply a matter of short supply of quality office space, not increased demand or business growth, coupled with low lease rates (hangover from Dot-bomb). Of course you have the Expedia and Microsoft leases, but that is a different world...
  • About bars, I did notice that after the dot-com bust that the Pioneer Square Bars seemed only to be heavily attended on Sat nights instead of packed both Friday and Saturday nights like before and that trend has stayed pretty steady since than. Belltown bars are packed both Fri and Sat nights. This could however just be more a trend of where people prefer to go than anything to do with economics. Although since most attendees of Pioneer Square clubs are from the "burbs", the expense of driving plus any job losses could have impacted attendance. Of course this is just speculation+observation.
    As for retail,etc. I haven't noticed any slowdown in the stores I go to on a somewhat regular basis.
  • People will not stop going to stores.. They will however stop buying excess items. Bars are the same, adults will still go, but they will purchase the "drink special" or "wells." Movie theaters would be impossible to measure anyways since more and more people just download the movies and watch them at home- thank u piracy.

    First to go in my book?

    Lowering of car payments, insurance, or rent/mortgage. Last time I checked Detroit's car capital of the world wasn't doing so well.
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