Expecting surplus inventories

KK
edited September 2007 in Housing Bubble
Is it reasonable to expect surplus inventories coming to the PS housing market real soon now? And is it reasonable to expect that will have a hit on prices?

The CW might be that, if mortgages become harder to get, and prices go stagnant or fall, that owners will start to pull their homes off the market since they won't get a good return. So that dampens the direct supply vs demand.

But what about all the developers who have bought up plots of land all around the metro area with plans to drop in lots of units? If you've built and haven't sold, will you (and your investors) hold out on a high price for your leftovers, or choose to cut your early losses by dropping price on empty units?

If you haven't built yet, do you hold onto a vacant lot making no money, or do you build anyway and take the lower return?

Seems to me that all the developers in that position will end up pumping units into a reduced-demand market for a year or two, which will they will have to sell at cut rates. Unless of course they get a bailout (bastards).

IANAREA. Does this theory have any merit?

Comments

  • We are pretty close to or above at record inventory numbers right now for the region, depending on how you interpret the poorly kept data from the 80s and early 90s.

    I don't think we are going to see more huge numbers of houses coming on the market, but I think sales will drop off, pushing months of inventory into the 6-8 mo range over the next 6 months to a year and putting us solidly into a buyer's market.

    Even in a downturn there will still be buyers. My guess is about half of the peek last year, with inventory hitting 11-12K next spring.
  • I can just offer anecdotes. I noticed a local builder has switched a sign in our neighborhood from "Two Luxury Homes coming soon!" to "Two lots for Sale". I also see a big D.R.Horton development in Redmond with a new sign saying from $450k. If those are SFH then $450k is a builder facing up to the reality of the market, because you could not buy a new SFH in Redmond for less than $650k and usually it was much more. On the D.R. Horton website all the local projects say "call for pricing". I would interpret that as "call with offer". As the no 1. builder in the nation I'm sure they are already well aware of how bad it can get. Therefore the large builders may lead the serious price cuts in our region.
  • Kate wrote:
    I can just offer anecdotes. I noticed a local builder has switched a sign in our neighborhood from "Two Luxury Homes coming soon!" to "Two lots for Sale". I also see a big D.R.Horton development in Redmond with a new sign saying from $450k. If those are SFH then $450k is a builder facing up to the reality of the market, because you could not buy a new SFH in Redmond for less than $650k and usually it was much more. On the D.R. Horton website all the local projects say "call for pricing". I would interpret that as "call with offer". As the no 1. builder in the nation I'm sure they are already well aware of how bad it can get. Therefore the large builders may lead the serious price cuts in our region.

    I drive by that Horton development every night, and the price got my attention also--I suspect, based upon the fact that there appear to be zero foundations started, that this is the price for just the improved (utilities installed) lot. I'll have to stop in and check.
  • What about the two sizable development on both end of Bellevue Way. It'll be interesting to see what happens with those two.
  • I was wrong in my post above about the DR Horton development on Rose Hill--the prices are for townhomes and not just the lots, see this link:

    http://www.drhorton.com/corp/GetCommunity.do?dv=Y7&pr=44176
  • The Horton development are townhouses ranging from 440K to 660K plus $150 HOA (you can find the info on Horton website select WA and Seattle in drop down boxes and also RedFin). Since they're townhomes, their prices are in line with other condo/townhouses found in the area. They're not a bargain by any means IMHO.

    We won't see any lowering of prices on the Eastside until a recession hits.
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