Posted by: The Tim

Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market.

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  1. And for the long-time “it’s better to rent” argument, check out this take:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/28/business/28leonhardt.html?hp

  2. I think the loose lending basically borrowed a good portion of those Seattle buyers who would have bought in 2008-10, and squeezed them into a house now.

    The downside is that a portion of those who could have reasonably afforded a home had they waited and saved up instead of buying an over-priced house earlier than was fiscally prudent, won’t keep there homes, and will be soured on homeownership for a long, long time. This will end up leading to a net-loss of homeowners in the long-term.

  3. Meanwhile in other news, the NAR has been dealt a significant blow by the DOJ. Internet realtors like redfin and zillow can no longer be discriminated against. Now, these sites can compete against the likes of johnlscott or windermere on a more equal footing.
    http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/28143

    Now maybe we will see that horrible 6% commission come down to something like 3%.

  4. Tried to post a link earlier twice but it didn’t take –

    There’s also another article in the same NYT about a long-time “renting is better” advocate changing their mind recently after a move to Washington.

    Just FYI, it’s on the cover of today’s Times.

  5. whoops! sorry for the double post!

  6. “TheHulk // May 27, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    Meanwhile in other news, the NAR has been dealt a significant blow by the DOJ. Internet realtors like redfin and zillow can no longer be discriminated against. Now, these sites can compete against the likes of johnlscott or windermere on a more equal footing.
    http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/28143

    Now maybe we will see that horrible 6% commission come down to something like 3%.”

    This was Slashdotted as well. Sounds like good news to me. We’ll see what actually happens.

    http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/27/2044207&from=rss

  7. Hello Gill,

    A key phrase in your linked article -

    ….I’m still not sure how good our timing was. Based on the backlog of houses on the market, I fully expect that our new house will be worth less in six months than it is today…..

    The author admits knowledge of the risk of depreciation and considering other factors he still decides to buy. Good for him. He made an informed decision.

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  9. is that the same NYT article with the graphic saying that the historic buy/rent price ratio was 10-14. and now it is about 17.9 in Seattle?

    essentially, the idea is that if you’d pay $1k to rent it. you should expect to pay $1k*12(months)*ratio to buy it.

    so, if you are looking to buy a place for $400k, you may want to ask yourself if someone would rent it from you for $2400/mo (using the 14x buy/rent ratio).

  10. It is a well known fact in the real estate industry that the Pacific Northwest, and the Seattle area in particular, is always a year or two behind the national market. Prices here started inflating a couple years after the rest of the country, and now they are deflating a couple years after the rest of the country. This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone.

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