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Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market.

31 responses to “July Reporting Roundup: Sales are Up, Up, UP!”

  1. seattlerenter

    Why the delay if there is good news to share? and I don’t see a spike in prices this Oct.-Dec. like last year since that is when the credit began and will end this year. Should be downhill from here on prices and sales.

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  2. Acerun

    According to my stock broker, previous results are not a prediction of future performance.

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  3. NoMoreWork

    In a news release accompanying the report, listing service members said July’s weather curtailed potential sales, because people found it too hot to look at homes.

    Who are these people? Goldilocks? Last month was too hot to buy houses, next month is too cold, but this month is just right!

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  4. Indy

    Poor Northwest journalists. It’s so hard to make sense of all these strange numbers. If only there were, I don’t know, A World Class University Economics Program somewhere nearby where there would be plenty of nice, very intelligent folks, highly educated in the body of knowledge that would be the most helpful in explaining these phenomena, and eager to discuss it.

    Yes, it’s too bad, because those people would be able to explain to these journalists things like the interactions between changes in supply, demand, and prices. Then, instead of journalists spouting numbers they don’t understand to readers who also don’t understand them – we could have some articles which help to actually explain the significance (or lack thereof) of this quantitative data.

    At the very least, we’d have some alternative quoted opinions to temper the unmitigated optimism of those who have an interest in the upward manipulation of perceptions and expectations.

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  5. David Losh

    There is a sucker born every minute. Ask Warren Buffet.

    The Press Release from the North West Multiple Listing Service was sent out today to agents, so Brokers must have gotten them on Monday, or Tuesday.

    I have no problem saying it is a load of carp.

    It’s embarrassing.

    This is where lying with statistics comes in.

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  6. David Losh

    RE: Indy @ 4

    Yeah we need another bunch of idiots crunching the numbers.

    A Real Estate has income potential, mortgage, rental, or production, like trees, or alfalfa. Resale is speculative.

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  7. patient

    From a glance it looks like we have added about 70 units each months to the gap between pendings and closed sales. With 7 months that would make approx. 7 x 700 ~ 4900 units in backlog if these will close. It’s a wild card even if I think most of these are pendings that fails to close.

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  8. Softwarengineer

    I’ve got the Solution to the Seattle Price Drop Conundrum

    Dr. Roubini mentioned today that Australia’s economy is weathering the recession well. How have they done it you ask?

    Its called going back to “cash and carry” home financing….say, about 7% interest on a maximum 6 yr fixed loan…LOL

    See the proof:

    http://www.australianpropertyinvestor.com/public/121.cfm

    Wellllll…..that would put a damper on Seattle RE prices and the short term price collapses would be chronic, most likely for years….but you need a rosy economy Obama smile on your face and think “change”. In the end, we’d recover like Australia and be immune from the recession. See the proof:

    http://www.rgemonitor.com/roubini-monitor/257444/are_there_bright_spots_amid_the_global_recession

    Annnnd…..just think of it bloggers, your 401K’s CD interest rate might actually be 5%!!!!

    Hey, maybe even if the Health Reform Bill $500B butcher axe of Medicare actually occurred, the Boomers may actually even retire with the massive CD increases and open up some scarce job slots for the youth…LOL

    P.S. I just heard about the $500B proposed butcher axe of Medicare due to the proposed Health Care Reform Bill by attending Congressman Reichart’s town meeting this afternoon….a very nice meeting too….informative.

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  9. patient

    RE: patient @ 7 – “about 70 units each months” should of course be 700 not 70.

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  10. mydquin

    Seems like the lag between changes in SAAS & Price would be a better predictor than the lag between the changes in demand and price. Why leave supply completely out of the equation?

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  11. Realitycheck

    I am so entertained when I read this blog. Other than a handful of insightful contributors the vast majority are simply negative beyond belief and it just cracks me up. Of course the negative ones will say they are just being realistic. They say just facts and look at the graphs. Listen to so and so… Whatever

    I enjoy watching Tim tee up those negative softballs so his followers can hit em’ out of the park and offend a few people along the way. Even if there is a hint of positive news he likes to “ya-but” everything.

    It is a bad soap opera, but man it is addictive! Keep the glass half empty boys…

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  12. Racket

    By Softwarengineer @ 8:

    Wellllll…..that would put a damper on Seattle RE prices and the short term price collapses would be chronic, most likely for years….but you need a rosy economy Obama smile on your face and think “change”. In the end, we’d recover like Australia and be immune from the recession. See the proof:

    .

    Wow a country of 10X smaller population wise of the USA that has much lower overhead it surviving the rescession?

    Have you even looked at real estate prices in Sydney? $500k USD for a mediocre 2 bedroom condo, in a city of 4 million people. Roughly 1/2 the size of the Chicago metro area.

    I am really not sure what your point is. Mortgages are harder to get, and everything is just as expensive.

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  13. wreckingbull

    I enjoy watching Tim tee up those negative softballs so his followers can hit em’ out of the park and offend a few people along the way. Even if there is a hint of positive news he likes to “ya-but” everything.

    The last few years has pretty much been shooting fish in a barrel for us prudent bears. I’d say swinging at a softball connotes way too much effort.

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  14. Softwarengineer

    RE: Racket @ 13

    Before you go spouting negative untruths, please look it up on Google first

    Australia homes go as low as $50K each and prices include big land lots too :-)

    See the proof:

    http://www.propertyoptionsblog.com.au/tag/best-places-to-buy/

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  15. Softwarengineer

    RE: wreckingbull @ 14

    Its just the opposite

    Tim’s trolls are the interesting ones to read….we don’t get them much anymore, I wonder why?

    Its always interesting to hear their convoluted lack of common sense logic , lack of good data and/or shameless name calling [in hopelessness] Tim’s trolls hand out….it makes me smile :-)

    Please come back trolls, the bubble heads need a laugh. LOL

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  16. David Losh

    RE: Realitycheck @ 12

    Here’s a reality check for you. Home prices double every seven years, or is it ten, or is it that people move every three years, or is it seven. Real Estate is about supply and demand. The one I like about Seattle is that we are land locked so the prices are higher. Never mind the I5 corridor, or that we are the only metropolitan area I can think of the shuns development close to the air port. No we need a Light Rail Transit to the air port so people don’t need to live there. How about that interest rates are low so you can afford to spend more. My personal favorite is that Real Estate is worth what a buyer is willing to pay for it. Isn’t it? Isn’t it all true? Or is Real estate based on a highly rational, income based, formula?

    Prices are too high.

    It took a gosh darn kid, with an electrical engineering degree, who doesn’t even own a house, to point that out.

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  17. Racket

    By Softwarengineer @ 15:

    RE: Racket @ 13

    Before you go spouting negative untruths, please look it up on Google first

    /

    In the middle of the desert?

    Wow you really one upped me there.

    Do a google map search of those places. Have you seen what they pay for water in those areas. Its rationed in most of those desert cities.

    Also have you seen the price of goods in Australia vs. US.

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  18. Rack

    Heh not one of those areas is closer than an hour from a major city.

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  19. deejayoh

    By David Losh @ 17:

    The one I like about Seattle is that we are land locked so the prices are higher.

    That must be a different definition of “land locked” than I am used to!

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  20. David Losh

    RE: deejayoh @ 20

    Yeah that should be water locked.

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  21. Scotsman

    RE: Realitycheck @ 12

    Not me, baby! The bottom is in! Let’s go buy a house, or three or four so we can have some rentals. Real estate doubles every 10 years, so in three years or so we should have some equity to buy a couple more, and in six years we can do it again. Ten years from now… retirement! We’ll be RICH!

    You in? ……. Hello? Hey, where’d he go…? Hello? Sheesh.

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  22. Scotsman

    My favorite: “If you people weren’t so dang negative, this market would be in recovery! It’s all these negative press reports that are depressing the market!

    The reality- we are so screwed, already in a deep hole, and everyone just keeps digging, because that’s all they know how to do.

    Scotty- beam me up. There is no intelligent life on this planet.

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  23. Orion

    RE: NoMoreWork @ 3

    Here’s my prediction:

    “August’s pleasant weather in the mid 70′s was simply too “just right” for several showings and open houses, as brokers and agents said buyers and sellers postponed tours, saying they wanted to enjoy the nice weather while it lasted.”

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  24. Rack

    By Orion @ 24:

    RE: NoMoreWork @ 3

    Here’s my prediction:

    “August’s pleasant weather in the mid 70′s was simply too “just right” for several showings and open houses, as brokers and agents said buyers and sellers postponed tours, saying they wanted to enjoy the nice weather while it lasted.”

    I suppose, however in 102 degree weather it was even too hot to sit by the pool.

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  25. Kary L. Krismer

    RE: Orion @ 24 – I had actually wondered what the effect of the extreme July heat would be. In the winter you want sellers to keep at least some heat on so that buyers linger a while rather than rushing through because they’re freezing their butts off. Most houses here, however, don’t have A/C, and if they were vacant and locked up, they’ve be very hot.

    I’m not suggesting it would cause sales to decline, but instead that it would make certain properties (the hot ones) more difficult to sell, and others (shaded or with A/C) more likely to sell.

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  26. td

    Blake Knoblauch reminds me of Bob Loblaw (Arrested Development)

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  27. Orion

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 26
    Kary, it probably could have an effect, much like the fresh baked cookies smell in a house. Creating positive reactions on a subliminal level. Of course, ephemeral aspects of a house should be ignored in a rational, logical purchasing decision, but most people aren’t rational or logical.

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  28. BillE

    By Realitycheck @ 12:

    I am so entertained when I read this blog. Other than a handful of insightful contributors the vast majority are simply negative beyond belief and it just cracks me up. Of course the negative ones will say they are just being realistic. They say just facts and look at the graphs. Listen to so and so¦ Whatever

    Then post a counter-point. Prove Tim wrong. Influence me with statistics that say Puget Sound housing prices are at normal levels. Put up or shut up, eh?

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  29. Kary L. Krismer

    By Orion @ 28:

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 26
    Kary, it probably could have an effect, much like the fresh baked cookies smell in a house. Creating positive reactions on a subliminal level. Of course, ephemeral aspects of a house should be ignored in a rational, logical purchasing decision, but most people aren’t rational or logical.

    Well some of that shouldn’t be ignored. For example, my first condo I noticed the units were a lot warmer on the west side than the east side, so I bought on the east.

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