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Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market.

9 responses to “Analyze a “Below-Market” Deal: Historic Pricing”

  1. Kary L. Krismer

    I don’t see what this gets you over just comparing current value. If you don’t think the current value is correct, why would you assume the value from 2003 (or some other year) was correct?

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  2. rationalguy

    US home prices started to get out of whack from historical prices since 1998. Before that house prices on average went up at the rate of inflation for last 100 years. Assuming, condition of house has not drastically changed, one simple rule of thumb is to add rate of inflation to the price of house from the last sale price (assumption it is pre-bubble time i.e before 1998).

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  3. Scotsman

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 1

    “why would you assume the value from 2003 (or some other year) was correct?”

    Because the world was more rational then.

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  4. rationalguy

    I must caution buying house based on historical prices. Even, if ignore what happened in last decade of housing bubble , weak economy, high unemployment rate, huge shadow inventory, the big blow would be coming from retiring of baby boomers in next two decade. Perfect storm.

    This is good report on impact of baby boomers on housing market due to “net selling effect” (people tend to sell more than buy as they grow old) for next two decades.
    http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a789053981~db=all~order=pubdate

    Sellers of existing homes provide 85% of the annual supply of homes sold, and home sales are driven by the aging of the population since seniors are net home sellers. The ratio of seniors to working-age residents will increase by 67% over the next two decades; thus
    anticipate the end of a generational housing bubble

    The effect of this will not be uniform with Florida/Arizona etc (warmer climes) will benefit but not so good for higher cost ( CA) and colder climes (Oh, WA, Wi).

    Tim, would be possible to understand the impact of “baby boomer” retirement on seattle housing market??

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  5. Kary L. Krismer

    By Scotsman @ 3:

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 1

    “why would you assume the value from 2003 (or some other year) was correct?”

    Because the world was more rational then.

    For every neighborhood?

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  6. David S

    Thanks for keeping it short and sweet Mr T. Have a wonderful Christmas everyone.

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  7. Macro Investor

    RE: rationalguy @ 4

    True about the baby boomers. But instead of selling/downsizing, it will be walking away and renting. They’ve lost most of the equity they hoped to retire on. Yet they still have to cut expenses. So they’re stuck in a house that won’t sell and they have no option except to hand it over to the bank.

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  8. kfhoz

    RE: rationalguy @ 4

    Thanks for the pointer to the article about baby boomer aging effects, RG.

    Details may matter: the article does not include WA in the “colder” states that will see more sellers than buyers earlier than other states. In the table in Figure 8 on page 12, WA is grouped with AZ, NV, and FL as a state who will have more buyers than sellers until some time after 2030.

    Of course 20 years is a long time and there is more risk that the biz situation in WA will change than risk that the climate will change in AZ, NV, and FL.

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