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Lawrence Yun: “Home values have overshot downward”

By The Tim on October 11th, 2009 at 3:58 PM · 48 Comments

In case there is any doubt about whether NAR chief “economist” Lawrence Yun is just as much of a shameless price-boosting shill as his predecessor David Lereah, I present some excerpts from a post he made on Friday regarding the inefficient, expensive, and economically stupid homebuyer tax credit: Unleashing Pent-Up Housing Demand and Sustainable Economic Recovery

There is no delight in watching the budget deficit soar. The $1.4 trillion deficit in the completed 2009 fiscal year to September is the highest ever in the U.S. in sheer dollar figures, and the highest since the Second World War if measured in relation to the overall economic pie. It’s a huge burden to the future generation and could easily cause interest rates to rise much sooner and quite sharply. Washington needs to come out with a credible plan to reduce the deficit over time.

However, one area where federal taxpayer dollars have effectively been utilized is in providing a homebuyer tax credit. The key to any future sustainable economic recovery lies in home values stabilizing or, better yet, a return to a historical appreciation rate of 3 to 5 percent each year. The bubble prices crash landed. All the excesses have already been removed. In fact, one could legitimately argue that home values have overshot downward.

It would be an utter pity if the housing market, just at the cusp of self-sustaining recovery, rolls downhill again. That could indeed happen if potential buyers step back and inventory again climbs. Falling home values – independent of whether overcorrecting is happening or not – will bring back all the associated collateral damage.

A much happier scenario would be that the buying momentum continues for few additional quarters such that inventory falls back down to the normal 5 to 7 months, a level consistent with home value stabilization. Once that is accomplished, the consumer “fear factor” of waiting and waiting for a lower price later down the road will no longer be part of home buying decision.

For that happy scenario to play out, a time extension on the home buyer tax credit is critically needed.

Unfortunately the full post is available only to registered members of the real estate professional’s social network ActiveRain. If you for some reason have a desire to read the whole thing, drop me an email and I can email it to you.

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$8k Tax Credit: Inefficient, Expensive, Economically Stupid

By The Tim on October 8th, 2009 at 10:30 AM · 60 Comments

The intensity of the push from a couple of major national lobbying groups (NAR and NAHB) to extend and/or expand the $8,000 first-time homebuyer tax credit seems to have increased since we last discussed the topic on these pages. With the supposed end of the program coming up in about seven weeks, now seems like a good time to broach the subject again.

Here’s the latest news on the status of a possible extension: Democrats May Extend Tax Credit for Homes

Democratic Congressional leaders are working with the White House to extend an expiring $8,000 tax credit for first-time home buyers, and aides said Wednesday that they were considering making it available to current homeowners who purchase a new residence.

The Democratic leaders met with the president to discuss a broad range of options to combat persistent high unemployment, officials say.

Keeping the home-buyers credit and broadening it has been a priority for real estate agents and the home builders lobbies, and for [Senator Harry] Reid, who faces a tough re-election race next year in a state [Nevada] that has been among the hardest hit by the housing crisis since mid-2007.

Okay first off, let’s drop the nonsense notion that somehow propping up home prices will “combat persistent high unemployment.” That’s a complete non sequitur. Now, before we really talk about extending the credit for another year, let’s have a look at its effectiveness and cost this year.

In February, when the “$787 billion” stimulus plan was passed into law, the CBO estimated that the $8,000 first-time homebuyer tax credit would cost around $6.6 billion (source, source). That would have been 825,000 first-time buyers claiming the $8,000 credit. As of September, the NAR is estimating that “1.8 to 2.0 million” first-time buyers will claim the credit, with a mere 350,000 of those being sales that “would not have taken place without the credit.” That would be a total cost of about $15.2 billion. Here’s a visual of those numbers:

Estimated Cost of the 2009 $8,000 Homebuyer Tax Credit

To me, that looks like a program that has been pretty poor at actually “stimulating” people to do something, and pretty good at giving a nice fat $8,000 handout to people who were planning to buy a house anyway, at a cost well over double the original estimate.

However, apparently to organizations like NAR and NAHB, that looks like a rousing success story that should be both extended and expanded. According to Calculated Risk the NAHB is pushing to up the credit to $15,000, expand it to all homebuyers, and extend it another year. Because, you know, We The People can afford it, right? It’s not like the federal government is facing a massive budget deficit and a mind-blowingly enormous debt.

If we’re going to use the kind of anti-logic that NAR and NAHB are apparently high on, I like the plan that (ironically) was suggested by a Georgia Realtor: Let’s increase the tax credit to $100,000! Heck, why not make it permanent, and up it to $500,000, or even a cool $1 million? Apparently cost and effectiveness are not factors in this decision, we should just do whatever it takes to get those pesky homebuyers “off the fence,” right?

The constant argument that is raised in favor of extending the tax credit is that because home sales are a major driving force in our economy, stimulating the real estate market is a critical ingredient to economic recovery. Is it just me, or does that way looking at the problem seem obviously inherently flawed?

Allow me to explain by way of analogy. Let’s say I decide to quit my job as an engineer and instead get into a full-time Ponzi scheme that has me selling “business secrets” to an ever-growing pyramid of underlings, who themselves re-sell the “business secrets” to their own underlings, passing on a commission to me. Eventually the scheme collapses (as all Ponzi schemes inevitably do), and my income drops to zero. Now, I could go back and get a new engineering job again, but instead I decide to focus all my effort on figuring out ways to get people buying “business secrets” again so I can get my income back to where it was at the peak.

Sounds insane, right? Yet that is exactly what the government is attempting to do with the various “stimulus” plans directed at the real estate market.

Meanwhile, as Calculated Risk points out, “stimulating” people to move out of rentals and buy their own homes has some rather unpleasant unintended consequences:

And that means even more pressure on rents (rents are already falling). This is good news for renters, but this will also lead to more apartment defaults, higher default rates for apartment CMBS, and more losses for small and regional banks.

What I don’t understand is why aren’t major REITs that own rental units across the country (e.g. Equity Residential) lobbying congress just as hard as NAR and NAHB against extending the tax credit? You would think they would have a pretty strong interest in not defaulting on their loans due to too-low occupancy rates.

So basically what we’re looking at in the $8,000 tax credit is an inefficient, massively expensive, and quite probably economically damaging program. I can’t imagine why Congress hasn’t expanded it already.

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$8,000 Tax Credit: To Extend or Not to Extend?

By The Tim on September 16th, 2009 at 1:00 PM · 47 Comments

As the expiration date on the first-time homebuyer $8,000 tax credit nears, talk is stirring about renewing and expanding the scheme. Here’s a brief rundown of some of the varying related pieces I’ve been following from around the web.

First up, we’ve got the National Ass. of Realtors pushing hard on their members to “Write Congress Now”:

The National Association of REALTORS® is calling upon its 1.2 million members to urge Congress to extend the successful homebuyer tax credit into next year.

Since its inception earlier this year, the $8,000 first-time homebuyer tax credit has brought 1.2 million new buyers into the market—350,000 of whom would not have purchased a home without the credit, according to NAR. The credit is due to expire November 30.

As Calculated Risk has been pointing out, if the NAR’s numbers are accurate, that translates into a cost to (future) taxpayers of over $43,000 per additional sale (that would not have happened anyway). What a deal, right? Plus, how many of these “additional sales” are sales that would have taken place anyway in 2010 or 2011 (i.e. – borrowed demand)? I’d bet quite a few.

Here’s some more from Calculated Risk:

…if we actually look at the numbers, this is a poor choice for a second stimulus package.

…the program cost is about $43,000 per additional buyer. Very expensive.

Now the National Association of Home Builders estimates that expanding and extending the credit through 2010 would generate 500,000 additional sales at a cost of about $30 billion. So this is approximately $60,000 per additional house sold. And I think the cost will be much higher.

REMEMBER: Many homes will be sold to buyers who would have bought anyway without the credit. These buyers will still receive the credit. This year almost 2 million home buyers will claim the tax credit, but only 350,000 were additional buyers. That means this was a poorly targeted tax credit since so many people receive it who would have bought anyway.

Meanwhile, even as the NAR is urging their members to encourage Congress to extend the credit, rank-and-file members seem to have reservations. Check out this post from a Realtor on ActiveRain (basically MySpace for real estate agents):

While I am glad that the tax credit has probably helped stimulate the real estate market and the economy some, I also wonder about the longer-term effects of this so-called “stimulus” money on this nation’s deficit and national debt.

I would rather see the money in the hands of the people as opposed to Wall Street fat cats or failing banks though. However I also hear stories on the news and elsewhere of people using the $8,000 to pay for frivolous items. Kind of a windfall shopping spree. I also don’t like mortgaging the future of this country by giving free money to people while increasing massive debt that may end up crushing our nation one day (if it hasn’t already). Kind of “socialized” real estate buying if you can call it that. Take from my pocket and put it in yours.

The comments to that post (pretty much entirely left by real estate agents) are also an interesting read.

At this point, I’m not even convinced that extending the existing credit will even have much of an effect. Everyone knows that the current credit expires at the end of November. People who were “on the fence” about buying for whom the tax credit was enough to spur them to action are already dashing to get their purchase in before the deadline. How many people are really out there thinking, “you know, I wasn’t planning on buying a house at all, and the 2009 tax credit was not enough of an incentive, but if they would just extended it into 2010, I would definitely jump in there and buy!” Probably not very many.

So what do you think? Should the tax credit be extended? Is it likely to be extended? Why or why not?

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More Unfounded Starry-Eyed Nonsense from Lawrence Yun

By The Tim on March 2nd, 2009 at 9:40 AM · 173 Comments

Discredited NAR mouthpiece Lawrence Yun paid Seattle a visit on Friday to spout some more of his trademark wish-based forecasting. The Puget Sound Business Journal and the P-I both had brief write-ups of his presentation.

From Aubrey Cohen’s write-up in the P-I:

“We believe that the home prices have already fallen to what could be justifiable,” economist Lawrence Yun said, noting that mortgage payments for a typical household buying a typical house last year were back to 1998 levels, as a percentage of income.

“One may even argue that home prices are underpriced,” he said, because that calculation was based on higher interest rates than current rates.

This statement is so bizarre and nonsensical it’s hardly even worth refuting. As a number of readers pointed out over in the forums, Yun appears to be using national stats for income and home prices, which causes income to be skewed high by the cities (where home ownership levels are lower) and home prices to be skewed low by the rural regions.

Here in the Seattle area, the affordability index—which is calculated using local home prices and local incomes—is still well below its historical level. As I explained in Bottom-Calling: Affordability Index Forecast, home prices will have to fall roughly 40% from their peak to get us back in line with a level that “could be justifiable.” As of January, prices had fallen just over 20% from the peak. So we’re about halfway there.

(Aubrey Cohen, Seattle P-I, 02.27.2009)
(Kirsten Grind, Puget Sound Business Journal, 02.27.2009)

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Lawrence Yun Changes His Tune on Seattle

By The Tim on June 11th, 2008 at 11:11 AM · 29 Comments

Remember about four months ago, when NAR Chief “Economist” Lawrence Yun said this?

Seattle is totally safe from the housing meltdown!You may even say Seattle is underpriced if you believe Seattle is becoming a superstar city. Seattle is underpriced in relation to other West Coast markets.

Well, it seems he has changed his tune ever so slightly. Here’s a more recent quote, from a Forbes article on Monday (emphasis mine):

Yun described the trend [of declining home prices] as a “positive” noting that the areas with recovering planned sales also have high rates of foreclosure. In contrast, sales in areas such as Austin, Nashville and Seattle, where home prices peaked a year ago and continue to hang on, there is no market recovery in sight. Yun said: “Buyers are simply unable able to afford these higher prices.”

Wow. That’s quite a turnaround. I wonder what changed Mr. Yun’s mind?

(Maurna Desmond, Forbes.com, 06.09.2008)

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More “Superstar” Nonsense from Lawrence Yun

By The Tim on February 8th, 2008 at 3:15 PM · 51 Comments

Apparently the only necessarily qualification for becoming a “world class” or “superstar” city is to keep on repeating that it is so. That’s the message I’m getting from the latest quotes from the Realtor’s spokesman Lawrence Yun, anyway.

Seattle-area home prices are manageable for typical workers, according to the chief economist for the National Association of Realtors.

“You may even say Seattle is underpriced if you believe Seattle is becoming a superstar city,” Lawrence Yun told area brokers in Bellevue on Thursday. “Seattle is underpriced in relation to other West Coast markets.”

First off, we have addressed this “superstar” or “world class” thing before. If you haven’t read it already, take the time to check out On Luxury Cars and World Class Cities. Also be sure to read P-I columnist Bill Virgin’s take on the world class question. The gist of our argument is that although Seattle is great, and we love it here (really we do), it is not a world class city by any available objective measure. Sorry, it’s just not, and repeating over and over again that it is doesn’t make it so.

When people like Mr. Yun make the assertion that Seattle is a “superstar city,” they never back that claim up with any sort of quantifiable data. There are measurable characteristics that one can use to judge whether or not a city is world class (a good list can be found on Wikipedia), and Seattle simply does not measure up, any way you look at it.

But that’s not my only problem with Mr. Yun’s speech yesterday. He also made a some verifiably false assertions and ludicrous predictions. [Read more →]

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