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Double-Digit Appreciation Returning Soon to Seattle!

By The Tim on October 20th, 2008 at 4:16 PM · 44 Comments

The P-I printed a real gem of a story this weekend, with a pretty bold prediction:

The nation is on track to build fewer homes this year than at any time since the end of World War II, adding to the woes of an economy that analysts said Friday has almost certainly entered a recession.

But with builders focused on selling the homes they have, rather than developing new ones, Seattle is headed for a serious shortage that could bring a return to double-digit price appreciation starting in 2012, according to one local analyst.

“We will see one to two years of double-digit appreciation, bringing home prices back to the peak that they were in 2007 or 2006, if not higher,” said Todd Britsch, president and principal of New Home Trends, a Bothell consulting firm.

Okay, first off, prices are currently at about 2006 levels. For prices to be at a point where one to two years of double-digit appreciation will bring them “back” to 2006 levels, they would have to fall another 15% or so from where they’re at now. That doesn’t necessarily seem too unlikely to me, but I somehow doubt that’s what Mr. Britsch meant to predict.

Secondly, why is the P-I turning to Todd Britsch for predictions, anyway? Note this prediction made by Mr. Britsch in November 2007:

Buyers, however, shouldn’t expect those deals to stick around much longer, said Todd Britsch, president of New Home Trends.

For buyers, now may be the best time, he said. Many of the incentives will likely disappear after the first of the year. Sales typically slump in the fall and pick up each spring.

“Right now it’s a buyer’s market and if I were sitting on the fence, today is when I would buy,” he said.

Today’s market is “a bump in the road,” and the market is stabilizing, not collapsing, he said. It’s unlikely the county will return to astronomical double-digit appreciation rates, but a strong economy will keep housing prices going up in this area during the next few years, albeit more slowly.

Let’s see what housing prices have done in the time since Todd made that claim. The latest NWMLS data at that time was October, so let’s compare October 2007 to September 2008 (11 months).

King County SFH: Down 6.5%
Snohomish SFH: Down 11.3%
Pierce SFH: Down 10.7%

Hmm. I think Todd Britsch has a different definition of “prices going up” than I’m accustomed to.

The remainder of the article expands on the spurious idea that the current downturn in construction will lead to an impending shortage of homes in the not-too-distant future a few years from now.  The big problem with this claim is that the data simply does not bear out any kind of a housing shortage in the Seattle area.

New housing supply has been coming online at a rate easily exceeding increases in demand during the last few years (see this post and this post for details).  Today’s slowdown simply gives demand some time to catch back up to supply.  Of course, even this “catch up” hypothesis assumes that demand continues to increase which, given the current economic climate, isn’t exactly a given.

(Aubrey Cohen / AP, Seattle P-I, 10.17.2008)

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Is it a good time to buy? Salespeople say YES!

By The Tim on November 13th, 2007 at 3:09 PM · 100 Comments

Here’s a video piece that aired this weekend on King 5 Up Front with Robert Mak where he poses some questions about Seattle’s housing market:

More homes for sale, prices going down… Is it a good time to buy?

Where’s the bottom? And just how long might the slowdown last?

Unfortunately, to find the answers to these questions, he turns to people whose income is derived entirely from selling homes. What do you think they’re going to say?

Windemere Realtor Paul Slusher admits that the Seattle area is currently sitting on a record-high inventory of homes for sale, but gives it a delightful spin by calling it a “buyers market.” He says potential home buyers are “nervous,” but encourages them to jump in, because “you have leverage over sellers.”

Suzanne Britsch, with New Home Trends, Inc. (a company that sells housing market statistics and analysis to home builders to “help you stay ahead of the market“) tries to scare potential buyers into jumping in now by declaring that waiting for the bottom of the market is worthless: “The problem is, is when it flips, it goes in one day! You know… I mean… So you never know when the bottom is.” She also plays the “running out of land” card (which has been refuted on this site here and here, among other places): “That bubble never breaks. I mean… Because, it—we have too many impediments to development here, to really overbuild this market.”

And lastly, Robert has Chairman and CEO of John L. Scott Real Estate J. Lennox Scott himself in-studio for a free advertisement of John L. Scott’s services. Referring to the Fortune forecast, Scott quips: “That’s not the projections that we’re seeing. We’re in one of the best markets in the nation here in the Northwest. We have positive job growth, we have low interest rates… And we just do not see that taking place.”

We’ve busted the “job growth will keep home prices propped up” myth here so many times, it’s not even funny. Yes, if the jobs situation was cruddy, the housing market would suffer (e.g. Detroit). But just because we have a good job situation doesn’t necessarily mean that homes will continue to sell at over-inflated prices (e.g. San Diego).

Scott admits that things are slow, but writes it off as a normal market cycle: “Well, we’re definitely in the adjustment phase of the real estate cycle. Every time you come off a frenzy market, a surge market… you do see sales pull back. Sales activities does lower about ten to fifteen percent. And right now, we’re going through the mortgage market scenario… that’s getting better every week. And, in fact, rates are just as good as they were in July.”

Except, sales were lower by ten to fifteen percent this time last year, and now they’re down from that another thirty percent, for a total decline of thirty-five to forty-five percent in sales activity. That doesn’t sound like the normal market cycle Mr. Scott described. And how can he sit there with a straight face and describe the present situation in the mortgage market as “getting better every week”? Somebody should tell that to Washington Mutual and Citibank. A little later in the segment he admits that easy money drove the disparity between income and home prices, but pegs it entirely on interest rates, ignoring the lack of lending standards. Rates may still be reasonable, but a huge number of people who would have qualified for a massive loan in 2006 are now completely shut out (as they should be).

Mak: Should I be scared though, of jumping in, and then seeing the price continue to slide, even once I’m in?
Scott: You’re not going to see the prices come off that much. They may come off ever so slightly off the peak.

While Fortune at least can point to the logic behind their analysis, all that Scott offers up is discredited clichés and blanket statements with no supporting evidence. Granted, the available time to make points in a news segment like that is limited, but he could have at least said “we don’t see that happening, and here’s a brief explanation of why.” Is “positive job growth” seriously the best argument he can come up with?

At the end of the segment, Robert invites viewers to share their thoughts about the housing market on the Up Front blog. Here’s the post if you’re so inclined. Maybe when the spring bounce fails to materialize next year, I can get Robert to have me in-studio to explain what’s really going on with the housing market in Seattle.

(Robert Mak, King 5 News Up Front, 11.10.2007)

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