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“The housing market is slightly undervalued” (except in Seattle)

By The Tim on December 4th, 2008 at 10:36 AM · 26 Comments

A recent report on the housing market across the country from Global Insight and National City contains some interesting bits that are worth noting:

Extreme overvaluation is now essentially nonexistent. … For the country as a whole, the housing market is slightly undervalued.

Only the Pacific Northwest remains overvalued across a wide region.

Housing Valuation Analysis

Their analysis is based on population density, mortgage rates, incomes, and a “constant” for each city, that is roughly equivalent to the concept of desirability that we have discussed on these pages numerous times in the past.

Since they are claiming that most of California is already “fairly valued,” I think their analysis tends to lean somewhat in favor of more expensive housing. So while I can’t say I agree with their analysis 100%, I do find it interesting / amusing that the Pacific Northwest now sticks out like a sore thumb in their nationwide analysis.

You can play around with their nifty interactive map, read the full report, or check out the methodology pdf.

Update: Changed the map image above to the one directly from the pdf report, since the National City website is serving up different versions of the interactive map in a seemingly random fashion.

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Seattle Times: “Sellers are Growing Desperate”

By The Tim on October 2nd, 2008 at 10:37 AM · 64 Comments

An article in today’s Seattle Times goes nicely with Mr. Cohen’s article in the P-I a couple days ago.

More sellers are growing desperate as homebuying stalls locally

I especially like the first part of the subtitle text (emphasis mine):

The Puget Sound area housing market, supposedly immune to the forces pulling down others across the country, is seeing more inventory, fewer sales and falling prices, and that’s stressing out Seattle-area sellers — particularly those who need to sell quickly to avert foreclosure or move out of town. Instead of taking advantage, buyers are sitting on the sidelines.

Guess who didn’t write this article. If you guessed Elizabeth Rhodes, #1 Local Housing Cheerleader, you win. Anyway, here are some interesting excerpts:

The Seattle-area housing market, once touted as bulletproof against the forces that were pulling down other markets across the country, is now stressing out sellers, who are seeing inventories rise, sales fall and prices drop. Many are shellshocked — particularly those needing to move out of town or trying to forestall foreclosure.

I wonder why they would be “shellshocked.” Maybe because this very paper was loudly proclaiming Seattle’s immunity to the housing bust to anyone who would listen? Anybody remember this gem from a big front page story in the Times back in September 2006?

Princeton economist Paul Krugman, writing in The New York Times, said: “The long-feared housing bust has arrived.”

Nationally speaking, anyway.

If history is any indication, King County may escape it, according to a Seattle Times analysis of single-family-home prices. It shows that appreciation rates have risen and fallen, sometimes precipitously.

But not once since 1985 — through recession years, interest-rate spikes, wars and employment downturns — has the countywide median price of a single-family home fallen, although it’s come close.

Also note the subtitle on the graphic:

Prices are dropping in some cities around the country, but local economists don’t expect that to happen here.

Anyway, back to today’s article:

As recently as last year, buyers were paying above list price and sometimes even waiving home inspections to come out the winner in multiple-offer situations. Now they seem content to wait for … what exactly? Prices to drop even further? Superior mortgages? Clarification of the Wall Street crisis? The election?

Don’t you just love the condescending, almost mocking tone?

As the asking price on their Shorewood house keeps falling, the financial and emotional burdens keep mounting for Dave and Kim Mantel, who take ownership next month of a new house in Tucson, where they plan to retire.

“When we made our decision last December to go ahead and start the Tucson construction, we couldn’t have envisioned having this much trouble selling our house,” Dave Mantel said. “We knew the nationwide market was having trouble but Seattle seemed immune. We just couldn’t have picked much worse timing.”

The house in Shorewood, which is between West Seattle and Burien, has a panoramic view of Puget Sound and the Olympics. The Mantels put it on the market in April after a remodel. They’ve lowered the asking price four times — the last a $50,000 drop to $799,000 — but have yet to receive a firm offer.

On the one hand, I feel bad for people like this family that bought the line they were being fed by the likes of the Times and other rosy news outlets. On the other hand, when you’re spending close to a million dollars on something, you have at least a little responsibility to do some due diligence. Folks like this family and others that “need to sell” that bought into the hype are getting burned if they overpaid for their homes. I guess I’d have more sympathy if nobody saw the present situation coming, and today’s market came out of left field totally unexpected.

(Stuart Eskenazi, Seattle Times, 10.02.2008)

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House Valuation Workshop

By Eleua on August 21st, 2008 at 10:48 AM · 232 Comments

Does the drop in home prices we have seen so far make the current real estate market affordable? Do prices that have dropped ten percent represent a great buying opportunity? Long-time Seattle Bubble regular Eleua takes on these questions and more with his “House Valuation Workshop,” using his native Bainbridge Island as a working example. Follow along by using home prices, rents, and incomes for your own neighborhood.

by Guest Poster Eleua
Original posted at Clearcut Bainbridge

At the Institute For Economic Reality, we are always trying to help people out of their self-imposed, colo-cranial economic impairments. Judging by the volume of chatter on how the real estate market is suddenly “affordable,” it would appear that we have our work cut out for us.

When home prices have gone up 150-200% in a decade, a 15% rollback isn’t exactly a buying opportunity. Keep in mind that during the run up, the “experts” all predicted that prices would not decline, but would level-off and allow incomes to catch up. When confronted with a slowdown, these same experts said that a 10-15% rollback would represent the “worst-case” scenario.

The delusion is understandable. Bainbridge Island is populated with Babyboomers, and Boomers have seen property prices increase for the bulk of their life. In fact, real estate is the one “investment” that Mouseketeers think they know well. The prospectus for a Boomer’s investment in real estate goes something like this:

Property prices have gone up, so they will continue. My real estate agent said this is the “bottom,” and I had better buy now or be priced out forever (they would never tell me something that is self-serving and against my interests).

Is there an objective metric to value a home? Should you jump all over a home that has been reduced in price $10,000, or wait for a better value?

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Global Insight: Seattle Still Overvalued (by 23%)

By The Tim on June 3rd, 2008 at 11:41 AM · 76 Comments

P-I Real Estate writer Aubrey Cohen had a nice post on his blog yesterday that pointed me toward a recent report that is worth mentioning here as well.

The report is titled House Prices in America and is published by Global Insight. According to their About page, they provide “comprehensive economic, financial, and political coverage of countries, regions, and industries.” As far as I can tell, they’re a much more neutral source than, say the NAR or Realogy.

The most interesting part of the report is their “statistically normal house values,” which they calculate by considering “not only house prices and interest rates, but household incomes, population densities and any historical premiums or discounts metropolitan areas have exhibited over time.” You can read all about how they determine the appropriate value for a market in their Methodology pdf.

Last time we checked in with Global Insight was September 2006, when they pegged Seattle as 33.8% overvalued. Now that prices have finally begun to drop around here, as of the first quarter 2008 they are ranking Seattle as 22.8% overvalued. Here’s how our area stacks up compared to the rest of the country:

Global Insight: Home Valuations 2008 Q1
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Hmm, the Pacific Northwest seems to be the last holdout of the overvalued markets. Portland is even worse than Seattle, coming in at 36.8% overvalued.

According to their analysis, Seattle’s current price of $393,200 “should” be $320,195 (19% lower). So does this mean prices here are going to drop 19%? Not necessarily, but based on what has happened in nearly every other part of the country, I’d say it’s pretty likely. Here’s what has happened in some other cities in the last two years:

San Francisco, CA
2006: Primed for an 18.9% drop
2008: Prices lower by 15.5%

San Diego, CA
2006: Primed for a 24.5% drop
2008: Prices lower by 24.1%

Minneapolis, MN
2006: Primed for a 14.8% drop
2008: Prices lower by 6.6%

Boston, MA
2006: Primed for a 7.1% drop
2008: Prices lower by 7.7%

Also note that the standard deviation of their valuation is +/-15 percent, so Seattle could be anywhere between 7.8% overvalued and 37.8% overvalued, which would mean “normal” prices of $364,750 and $285,350, respectively. In any case, it’s an interesting report that I recommend you check out.

(Global Insight, House Prices in America, Q1 2008)

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