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Action Call to Seattle Bubble Readers: Condo Sales Status Project

By The Tim on March 20th, 2009 at 11:15 AM · 93 Comments

So just how many unsold condos is Seattle sitting on, anyway? As I mentioned in a post on Wednesday, figuring out just how much unsold condo inventory exists is a daunting task, requiring many hours spent with the public parcel records.

However, the task could be far less intimidating if we split it up. Here’s what I propose we do to get a more complete picture of the local condo inventory: Each reader (that’s you) spends just a few minutes with the King County Parcel Viewer pulling up the records for the nearest condo project to your home or work (both new construction and conversions). Then post the results here, I can compile all the records into a single spreadsheet that will then be freely available to everyone.

Here’s a step-by-step on how to get the data we’re looking for:

  1. Head over to the King County Parcel Viewer
  2. Pull up the parcel report:
    • If you know the address of the condo building, click “Search by address” then enter the building number and street.
    • If you don’t know the specific address, use the map to zoom in to the general neighborhood, then click the “identify” tool to pull up details on each potential lot.
    • Once you have found the right lot, click the “Get Property Report” link in the lower-left.
  3. Click the text “Units in this condominium complex” to expand a list of all the units in the building.
  4. Units that are unsold will list the developer (usually an LLC) in the “Taxpayer” column.
  5. Post the link to the property report here (or here), along with the name of the complex, its address, and a summary of total units and the number of units sold.

Examples:

Queen’s Court
124 WARREN AVE N 98109
http://www5.kingcounty.gov/kcgisreports/property_report.aspx?PIN=7015800000
34 units, 14 sold

Pittsburgh
117 JOHN ST 98109
http://www5.kingcounty.gov/kcgisreports/property_report.aspx?PIN=6815500000
31 units, 17 sold

So what do you say? If we all put in a little bit of effort, I think we can get a pretty good picture of the overall situation. One caveat is that this method will only work on condo buildings that are fully completed. In-progress construction will not necessarily have the individual units listed in the parcel report, and this method does not give us any information about “pre-sales,” which doesn’t really matter much anyway since so many pre-sale buyers are now forfeiting their earnest money and backing out of deals (see this ongoing comment thread re: Olive8)

I have also created a forum thread for posting results, so that we can continue to easily add to the project even after this post has moved off the front page of the blog. Feel free to post results in either location.

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How To: Research Property & Loan Records

By The Tim on December 26th, 2008 at 1:04 PM · 35 Comments

There are many reasons you might want to do some research into the loan documents and other public records for a certain property.

  1. You’re thinking of buying a house and want to know how much the seller owes when crafting your offer.
  2. You’re looking at a home for rent and want to know if the landlord is at risk of foreclosure.
  3. You’re considering buying a bank-owned home and are curious how much the bank was owed when they took possession.

What follows below is a simple step-by-step guide to help you do this kind of research on your own.

First, you’ll need to find out the legal owner of the property in question. The best way to do this is to head over to your county’s parcel viewer website. I have conveniently linked the parcel viewers for King, Snohomish, Pierce, Kitsap, Thurston, Island, Skagit, and Whatcom counties on the Real Estate Resources page. Simply enter the house number and street number of the property and you’ll be able to get the county’s property report.

On the property report page you’ll see either “taxpayer name” or a record of the most recent sale which will tell you the name of the current owner, usually in the form of last name first. This page will also usually tell you how much the property was most recently sold for, although with all the equity extraction that has gone on in the last five years, that number is not as useful as it might seem.

Armed with the legal owner’s name, you’ll now need to head over to the county records search website, which is also conveniently linked for you on the Real Estate Resources page.

To search for loan documents, put in the owner’s name, a date range beginning with the most recent sale of the property and ending on today’s date, and search for document type “Deed of Trust.” The deeds of trust will state which property they are for (pay attention to this, because the owner may have more than one property) and the loan amount. For King County, you won’t be able to view Deeds of Trust online, but will instead need to write down the document number and go to the records office to request them in person.

If the home is bank-owned or already in foreclosure, you can search for the document type “Notice of Trustee Sale” or just “Trustee Sale,” which will show you how much was owed on the property at the time of the notice. These are viewable online for King.

By doing a little bit of digging through the county records, you should be able to paint an accurate picture of the property owner’s loan picture. The only trouble you might run into is if a property was purchased prior to the late ’70s (as far back as most online county records go). In that case if you really want to find out the loan information you’ll probably have to go to the county records office and shuffle through papers. Of course, the main reason for doing a search like this is to find out if the property owner in question treated their home like an ATM, and if there aren’t any records since the ’70s, you’ve got your answer anyway.

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