Posted by: The Tim

Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market.

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  1. Say….maybe all of the 2007 houses have sold…that would help to explain why the King County MLS inventory just dropped by over 40 in the space of a few hours.

    I smell market manipulation.

  2. The only street of dreams event that I ever attended was back in the summer of 1989 when I was living in Bellevue working as a summer intern for Puget Power. I remember we parked in the Sammamish valley between Redmond and Woodinville and were bussed east out to the neighborhood (don’t remember which one).

    What surprised me about this year’s street of dreams event is how small it is. Back in 1989 there were I think 17 homes, built with the English Tudor style that was popular at the time, and I think that the prices were in the 300-500K range, but the lots were much smaller (1/2-3/4 acre?) than the ones currently featured.

    They should just cancel this event, as there is no longer any need for it. With housing prices where they are now and lending standards tightening, just pick a street –any street– and drive down it, and dream about being able to afford anything on it.

    Hooray! Yippee! Pat yourselves on the back Seattleites, as we all live on a Street of Dreams today (and drive slowly, as those Pink Ponies like to suddenly dart across the street).

  3. I have a friend who owns a house that was on the “Street of Dreams” back in the late 90’s. Maybe 10 years ago? It’s a nice house, kinda big – but probably not even a $1mm property today. I am amazed at how outlandish these things have gotten in such a short period of time.

    I don’t know whose “dreams” these are. not mine.

  4. The house still on the market with the large outdoor pool…I did marvel at the kitchen counters. That Granite must weight darn near 1.5-2 tons combined. I asked an agent just for fun if there was a foundation directly underneath the kitchen island.

  5. I have to laugh when I see ‘built green’ touted as a benefit of these behemoths.

    Not unlike Al Gore and his $2000/month personal power bills.

    Not unlike the guy that trades in his perfectly good car for a brand new hybrid, not considering the immense energy costs and environmental impact of manufacturing that new car.

    Not unlike Little Leo DeCaprio who has probably put more carbon into this atmosphere in the form of burned Jet-A than all of us combined.
    We sure like our self-delusional warm fuzzies.

  6. Secret passageways are just awesome. You can bet if I borrow $3,000,000 to blow on a house it’s going to have secret passageways. That way I can continue to secretly live in the house even after it’s been foreclosed on.

  7. “Great downsizer”?

    Do I win?

    If I were spending $3M on a house you can bet that I would have a few secret rooms and passages.

    And I wouldn’t tell anyone about them.

    er…

    I mean, secret rooms are stupid. I’d never put one in my house.

  8. See if you can spot the part that made me laugh out loud…

    Is it that it’s a “great downsizer”? I’ve never heard of a home having “a great pedigree”, as if it’s a showdog or a trust fund kid.

  9. That last comment was me. Stupid browser auto-entry.

  10. Hey, that second comment of mine isn’t mine! Treachery!

  11. Not the last comment. The first ‘Joel’ comment was me.

    Hi Joel, I know your email!

  12. Ah, secret rooms and passageways. I’m reminded of the quaint tale of the broadcom exec that hit the wires last week…

    Ex-Broadcom exec alleged to have sex, drug lair
    The illegal network of tunnels and rooms underneath Nicholas’ Laguna Hills estate was kept secret from his wife and city officials, the documents said.
    The purpose of one secret room was to allow Nicholas to “indulge his appetite for illegal drugs and sex with prostitutes,” the crew claimed.

  13. they have this in Portland,OR too. I thought it’s free. Thanks for the input. Now I can use my time for something useful.

  14. Not the last comment. The first ‘Joel’ comment was me.

    I think you mean the second one.

  15. How the hell does a house have a pedigree? “Made from genuine old-growth Olympic peninsula pines…” Perhaps they mean the people that have lived in it, as if sleeping in the same room where some other stuck-up prick has slept is a perk?

    Or maybe they’re referring to the pretty, pretty, pink pony breeding stable in the backyard…

  16. You’re probably right, Tim. I thought of that possibility about 10 seconds after I posted.

    Still, SFH inventory is down by 60 today; that’s the biggest weekend drop I’ve seen in a while. Perhaps all of those dreamers came back from Snohomish and decided to dig their own 1,600-bottle wine cellars beneath their 800-bottle townhomes? :-P

  17. Last Monday, the peak to through drop was 37. Today it is 76 so far.

    I suspect the agencies are removing cruft because they are concerned about the appearance of high inventory. I bet a memo went around.

    Then again, it was beautiful weather this weekend. Maybe that does result in high sales.

    And Joel was right. I was the second post under his name.

  18. What’s interesting about The Retreat, selling for $5.7M, is that it was orignally listed at $5.5M. So it sat at $5.5M unsold until earlier this year. What did they decide to do to move an expensive white elephant that wasn’t selling at $5.5M? Raise the price of course!

    I think that what The Tim found funny about that listing was the fact that it referred to “downsizing” when the home is listed at 3,400SF! Wowza, that’s some downsizing!

  19. My street of dreams does not make for good TV. Owners in their late 30s or 40s in 1300sq.ft., 3 bedroom home (townhome or house) fully paid for. Big fat smiles on their faces, not a worry. Oh well….I keep on tuning on HGTV but it’s never on.

  20. What’s with the # of TVs staged in each of the Street of Dreams? Do the people who put on this event really think buyers and homeowners think “I care more about how many televisions there are in the house than the quality of pulls and fixtures?”

    I guess if one paid $5.5 million for a house one would want to get as much value out of being in the house as much as possible, but why would they watch TV? “We want to see how the “poor” people (people who can’t afford $5.5 million houses) live, but you know, not necessarily have to go outside and smell them or accidentally touch them.” In a huge house, surrounded by televisions everywhere within–sounds like Street of Nightmares to me. They could just look at their walls. “Wow, someone paid $5.5 million for this wall–wait, that was me.”

  21. Hey, we should all go to the SoD and wear a Lendron t-shirt or a housing bubble T-shirt.

    Betcha we get kicked out. :)

    For more fun, type “housing bubble” into the search box on cafepress.

  22. I’m embarrassed to say that I went to the Street of (outlandish, avaricious) Dreams this year with some friends who were collecting “decorating ideas”. My friends were quite disappointed by this year’s offerings, saying the houses weren’t nearly as grand as last year’s. Maybe that’s due to this year’s alleged green theme (or the fact that some of the “grander” houses from last year have still not sold). Speaking of green, we were scouring for what made the houses green, as they seemed to have just as much granite and hardwood as any other McMansion, not to mention the energy required to run their many “water features” and to heat and cool the 4,000+ sq ft. I also loved that the exhibitors had opened many of the windows while they were running the A/C…

  23. Oh, yes, we should have worn our Housing Bubble T-shirts while we were there – that would have been classic! My husband has the one at this URL: http://www.t-shirthumor.com/Merchant2/products/hbbl.html

    I think everyone who reads the blog should get one!

  24. THE RICH ELITE ACT LIKE THEY’RE IMMUNE FROM MIDDLE CLASS HOUSEHOLD WAGE STAGNATION SINCE THE LATE 1990′S AND THE BUBBLE THAT POPPED IN 2006

    Even the rich elite depend upon American Middle Class to buy their goods and services, the world economy does too.

    Some “pig-headed” far right “any Dem’Rep party folks” I know kind of think that way too.

    They’re working less hours, barely getting their McMansion and giant SUV payments in on time [let alone gas money to drive it anywhere], yet they feel they’re the rich elite too….after all, their home is an ATM machine.

    Ooops, strike that, not anymore.

  25. I grew up down the street from this year’s SoD – and Echo Falls Golf Course also on this same road was also a SoD back in the early-mid 90s. When my family first moved to 5 acres 2.5 miles off the highway, it was a dirt road (1977). For the record, I hated growing up out there, 10 miles from the nearest town, not getting to see my friends for 3 months every summer, no bus service…once you were in the country you were stuck in the country. I now live in West Seattle – it feels like the country but it’s so close to downtown and other services I actually HAVE a life as an adult.

    I want to provide some positive comments regarding this year’s SoD. It’s the first one that has ever been marketed as Built Green (to my knowledge) and from a public-educating perspective it did a very good job of showing visitors what kinds of materials have sustainable alternatives, what kinds of appliances can be more energy friendly than others, etc. The Urban Lodge had the best signage – every single room had a framed sign explaining the green details, sources, and designers. Considering how much land this development is sitting on – and this is what the overall larger community was concerned about – the houses are closer together than most in that entire region, allowing for community building and actually knowing your neighbors. It seems weird to drive all that way for a cul-de-sac, but it’s a "golly" sight better than what I see most places. As for the number of TVs – which acts more and more like a computer these days depending on how you have it set up – They were mostly in common living areas or media centers or the parents retreat. The children’s and guest suites were not modeled with televisions (something that was important in my family).

    There are acres and acres of preserved green space surrounding these homes, and they removed a minimal amount of trees (and frankly, those trees are mostly all alder (a weedy 100-year life tree) and will snap in the first strong wind storm anyway). Kudos to those builders who created COVERED outdoor living spaces – in the land where summer is 3 months long (or this year, 2), having a covered outdoor space means it’s actually usable and not just for show.

    At least the developers behind this year’s SoD, easily tourable in 90 minutes since there are only 5 homes, all under 5,000 sq ft, had the common theme of trying to build green. Independent developers not involved in a project like this can come out and do whatever they want within the zoning restrictions for this area.

    And since MOST people are either related to or good friends with a real estate professional, you can tour the SoD for free if accompanied by an agent outside of show hours. So yes, that means I was up at the crack of dawn both Saturday and Sunday driving out to where I grew up to give my family the opportunity to see what green development is all about. We arrived at 8 AM when they unlocked the doors and skedaddled by 9:45 AM, the cutoff time for on-site agent parking. It was nice to be the only people in the house, able to get an unobstructed glimpse at all of the neat features. (This is one way for you to find out just how good of a friend / family member you are – if they will get up that early for YOU on a weekend.)

    I will say my parents thought it was idiotic to drive 10 miles to catch a shuttle back to down the street from their house to see the homes. SoD should have made some sort of accomodation for the community, giving local residents an opportunity to see these homes without the shuttle hassle – especially since they put up with all of the construction for the last year or more.

  26. [...] and would sell better overall.  Tim at Seattle Bubble saved us the time and trouble with this article postedon July 23, 2007 with a wrap up of what happened to the 2006 Street of Dreams [...]

  27. [...] looks like we may not get to have a 2007 Street of (Materialistic) Dreams follow-up post this year like we had for 2006, since the homes have apparently been [...]

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