Seattle Bubble

Rather than place a lengthy remark, I thought I’d place it as a post. Hope you don’t mind. I’m going to type as I think, so I get a free pass on typo’s.

Regarding the Steve Tytler’s Everett Herald piece:

Steve & fellow bubble believers,

In the spirit of your article, I don’t disagree with your observations. But, as one of the folks that you reference as working in the marketplace or real world, I believe that if the Puget Sound area and Snohomish Co. where our office is located, experiences a 10-20% drop in housing prices, many clients of ours in which we closed their purchase transactions are going to be in a world of hurt. Many people in general will be in a world of hurt. I think of all the folks with piggyback/100% transactions and the countless “serial refinance” people who closed their transactions all across the country. It’s staggering to be honest.

A 10-20% drop in housing prices will put people into a major pickle to say the least. A less severe drop in the single digits will reach out and touch many as well. My belief is that homeowners who are selling need to hear that the market has changed in a meaningful way.

The key element that is absent in the comments from those in real estate leadership positions locally is this:

Our local region and more broadly, the country as a whole, has NEVER experienced the rate, scale and level of housing price inflation as we have over the last three years or so. There is no benchmark. The previous local correction in Spring of 1990 forward does not compare. In my opinion, those who suggest that this current correction will mimic corrections in the past may be underestimating the euphoria that drove our market to unbelievable heights. The recent lending absurdity was not present in our last correction. There was no better seat in the house to experience the market than being in the escrow business.

Look, I’m not in favor of the market changing gears as it affects our small business too, but it tires me to no end in hearing and reading local and national professionals in leadership positions (Lawrence Yun among many others) continually spin the “rates are great, economy is doing well and job growth is good.” Tell that to the thousands who will lose their homes across the country, the scores of people who can’t refinance because lenders are gone or standards have tightened enough that refinacing is not an option. Tell that to the thousands of honest, ethical loan officers who have no jobs because of the bull crap lending and behavior that enabled this market frenzy and subsequent and inevitable correction.

The idea of the “normal market” garbage rhetoric is meaningless to markets across the country experiencing severe corrections. What happened mid-August was not a “normal” event in the financial markets. I humbly ask as a small business owner in the real estate business that the real estate community start building their credibility back in a positive manner by discussing the market for what it is. True, currently the local market is not crashing and the sky is not falling, but housing prices are softening. We only started to hear no-nonsense analysis after the evidence was so obvious that those in leadership positions were seen publicly as foolish or worse.

The sooner everyone calls the market as it is, the sooner our correction will be over. People will continue to buy and sell homes in any market, but they won’t be buying because “real estate always” goes up. They will buy because it’s a place to call home, establish roots in and become part of the fabric of a community.

When people sitting across the table from me signing their paperwork to buy a home talk about everything BUT how much money they will make in “perceived equity”, I’ll let you know we are back to a “normal” market. When loan officers sitting across the table from escrow staff in offices across the country stop telling their clients “we can just refinance you again after your pre-payment penalty expires” in a year or three, then I’ll tell you we are back to a “normal” market.

Tim Kane
Co-owner
Legacy Escrow Service, Inc.
Blog Handle, “S-Crow”

Here’s a series of questions from a reader that was posted in a recent thread. (The questions were originally posted under the name “Sash,” but due to a strange bug in the transition to the new Blogger the comments now show as “anonymous”.)

Folks, you seem to have a lot of data on the housing prospects in 2007 and forward. I would like to request your advice for/against considering buying a new home (new construction) in the Redmond area.

Over the past year I have seen prices climb to astronomical levels in properties being built on 116th St in Redmond (Education Hill area). In your expert opinion are those prices going to “stay” the same in the years to come?

I see that the real estate marked is ’slowing’. Prices for 30 year old homes are now showing signs of reduced price. But in my opinion even after price reduction, some these homes are so over priced. What’s your take here?

Last but not least what would you price a new construction of 2500 sqft in the Education Hill area at today?

First off, I want to make it clear that I am not particularly an “expert.” I’m just a guy that has been following the market closely, digging up some data, and making some graphs. I know more (possibly a lot more?) about the local real estate scene than your average stranger on the street, but I don’t call myself an expert.

Although I don’t have much personal knowledge about the specific neighborhoods Sash is asking about, I will address the questions in a more general sense. First and foremost, if you don’t feel comfortable buying a house, then just don’t. Purchasing a house is the single largest financial decision most people will ever make, and it’s not something you should enter into lightly or out of emotion (especially fear of being “priced out forever”).

As far as prices staying the same on new construction, I will just point out that what has been happening around the country is that builders are offering greater and greater “incentives” on new construction such as cash back, paying closing costs, subsidized super-low-interest loans, free upgrades, etc. So even if the purchase price is technically the same, you’re getting more for your money. That being said, even the purchase prices have been dropping (in real dollars) across the country. And although most media reports claim that the Seattle-area housing market is still super-strong, builders are beginning to feel the squeeze here. I wouldn’t be surprised to see increasing incentives and a softening of prices here soon.

My general advice is that if you don’t have to buy a house right now (and who really “needs” to?) I recommend holding off, and saving/investing the difference between what you would be paying on a mortgage and what you are presently paying on rent.

If you feel that you must buy now, you’ll be fine if you plan on staying put at least five years, stick to 20% down, get a fixed-rate loan, and keep your total monthly housing costs at or below 30% of your income. If you leave out any of those, you’re essentially gambling that continued appreciation will bail you out of any potential financial crunch in the near future. Personally, that’s not a bet that I’m ever willing to take, but especially not right now.

So what’s your advice for Sash? Does anyone out there have any specific thoughts about the Redmond area?