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The Consequences of a Market Full of Monthly Payment Buyers

By The Tim on June 12th, 2009 at 11:26 PM · 50 Comments

Here’s a brief quote from a post that appeared here in 2006 titled The Monthly Payment Buyer:

In my opinion, it’s no wonder that home prices have gotten so out of whack with true fundamentals, when the first question someone asks in the home buying process is not “Is this house worth $XXX,000?” but rather “Can I afford $X,000 per month (no matter what kind of financing it takes)?” Obviously a monthly payment must be affordable, but should that really be the sole determining factor in whether a house is worth buying?

With interest rates bouncing up in the last few weeks from their artificial lows in the 4s, it’s interesting to consider how this might affect the housing market.

Following is a chart that shows how the monthly payment (principal + interest only) on a $350,000 mortgage grows as interest rates rise:

Effect of Rising Interest Rates on Mortgage Payments

Since most people are still “monthly payment buyers” when it comes to buying real estate, perhaps more informative is the following chart, which shows how much mortgage a fixed $1,750 payment (principal + interest only) buys as interest rates rise:

Effect of Rising Interest Rates on Mortgage Size

A mere 1-point jump in interest rates from 4.5% to 5.5% drops the amount that can be afforded by over 10%. Another 1-point jump up to 6.5%—a rate considered great just a few years ago—knocks another 10% off.

If suddenly everyone in the buying pool can afford 10% less for a home, what effect do you suppose that might have on prices?

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A Cautionary Home-Buying Tale: Look Before You Leap

By The Tim on September 18th, 2008 at 7:08 AM · 35 Comments

Here in Seattle it seems like we’re ground zero for real estate search websites, with Redfin, Estately, John L. Scott, Windermere, and many others constantly competing to add newer fancier features that make it amazingly easy to find a shiny new home in Seattle from the comfort of your old and busted hovel anywhere in the world.

Of course, just because you can complete the entire home-buying process remotely through your internet connection doesn’t mean you should. Here’s a cautionary tale of the risk you take by relying solely on what you see online and the word of a real estate “professional” (warning, disgusting photos of dead rats): Windermere Watch

For the ultimate and absolute life-ruining real estate nightmare, just imagine this: You move back to Seattle, a city you loved when you worked there years before. You’ve been financially responsible and conservative, arriving with zero debt and a little cash to start a new business. You’ve got a large down payment for a home, and even your car is paid off. Your life is in boxes, you go shopping for your new pad, and you find one in Shoreline that’s right in your price range. It’s on a great lot, too.

The house itself is a little bit old, but it’s been painted up nicely with what the Windermere guy’s brochure says are “Martha Stewart colors.” [Agent names redacted.] You’ve got great credit, a big cash downie, and pre-approved everything. Your agent recommends an inspector who has a neat business card with a logo saying he has insurance and belongs to an inspector’s federation. He gives you a nice little report with digital pictures saying the place is crackerjack and just needs a couple minor fixes. So you slap down nearly $47,000 and sign the papers, tickled to get the place.

Then the day you actually get possession and wander around inside your new home a bit, you start getting sick, and swelling up, and eventually you start having a full-blown allergic reaction. Then you find rat droppings, a rat hole torn in a closet ceiling, a rodent bait station behind the refrigerator in the kitchen pantry closet. A closer look around reveals durable wire mesh screening nailed in-between and over various holes and gaps around the house.

Yikes! The purpose of the website is to get people to boycott Windermere, but I think there’s an important lesson here for all potential homebuyers, whether you’re planning on using an agent or not. If you’re considering the purchase of real estate in someplace other than the city you live in, fly out and check it out yourself before buying. Sure, plane tickets are expensive, but I’m sure most people would rather spend $600 on a flight than $30,000+ on unexpected home repairs.

One thing I think the housing bubble has taught us is that when it comes to a transaction involving such large amounts of money, you simply cannot trust that all parties involved are going to be honest, and you certainly can’t count on them acting in your best interests. Verify everything.

Hat tip: Marlow Harris of 360 Digest (Incidentally, a Coldwell Banker Bain agent)

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The Monthly Payment Buyer

By The Tim on November 15th, 2006 at 4:17 PM · 17 Comments

The excellent personal finance blog Get Rich Slowly (highly recommended—one of my daily reads) posted a link yesterday that reminded me of a topic that I’ve been meaning to post on. As I read the story, titled “Cars affordability: Cheapest since 1980” I couldn’t help but think about the stark contrast between the price trends of cars versus real estate. Granted, land does not “wear out” in the way that cars do, so you wouldn’t expect real estate today to cost less than in 1980, but there is a similarity in the buying process of each that I’ve been thinking about lately.

Cars and real estate are similar in that the purchase price is negotiable. Think about the negotiation process that you go through when you buy a car. If you’re a smart buyer, you come to the table with a pretty good idea of what the car is worth, and negotiate the price based on that bottom-line. The monthly payment, taxes, fees, dealer extras, and trade-in value are important factors in your total out-of-pocket cost for the car, but they are all secondary to the purchase price of the vehicle. Consider this quote from the Edmunds.com article Confessions of a Car Salesman:

From my commission check it was clear that the minivan couple could have made a better deal and saved several thousand dollars. So where did they go wrong? Well, first of all, they negotiated as monthly payment buyers, rather than bargaining on the purchase price of the vehicle. When you agree to be a “monthly payment buyer” several variables are introduced that are harder to keep track of: the term of the loan can be extended up to 72 months (six years!) without your awareness and the interest rate can be raised. When you bargain on purchase price, it is a cleaner, simpler way of negotiating.

If you think about it, this is exactly what has happened with real estate. The combined forces of super-low interest rates and loose lending practices have turned the vast majority of home buyers into “monthly payment buyers.” A recent post by Ardell at RCG titled Beginning the Home Buying Process illustrates this phenomenon (emphasis hers—as usual):

STEP 1: The first step is the most extensive one, as it combines many factors. Home Price, which is determined by monthly payment affordability, cash needed to close, and commission to be paid to the Buyer’s Agent.

The first step is to base your home price on your “monthly payment affordability”—exactly the mistake mentioned above by the undercover car salesman that led to overpaying by thousands of dollars on a new car. In my opinion, it’s no wonder that home prices have gotten so out of whack with true fundamentals, when the first question someone asks in the home buying process is not “Is this house worth $XXX,000?” but rather “Can I afford $X,000 per month (no matter what kind of financing it takes)?” Obviously a monthly payment must be affordable, but should that really be the sole determining factor in whether a house is worth buying?

The longer this kind of mindset goes on, the more detached the price of real estate becomes from where it “should” be. In a way it pisses me off, because I know that for every person like me that thinks “there’s no way that house is worth $500,000!” there are hundreds (probably even thousands) of people that say “if we stretch our budget, we can afford $2,500 per month,” and thus the lunacy continues.

At least I know that the madness will end eventually, one way or another.

(Chandler Phillips, Edmunds.com)
(Ardell DellaLoggia, Rain City Real Estate Guide, 09.08.2006)

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