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Reader Question: No Debt & An Impending Raise – Time to Jump In?

By The Tim on October 19th, 2009 at 11:00 AM · 74 Comments

Here’s a question I received from a reader over the weekend:

I have $50k in the bank, no debt, make 50k per year and am confident in a position that will pay 75k per year starting 06/10. Let’s assume that if the position doesn’t happen, I will take a second job to make up the difference.

I’ve never owned a home. Rent for me is one room in a house and just $400/mo. A place I buy would need to be on the eastside.

I’ve lived well below my means for years (and also been a Seattle Bubble reader for that amount of time). But in my current situation I’m seriously considering a first home. Your opinion on my situation would be appreciated.

- “Seattle Bill”

Here’s my advice for Bill:

1) Structure your budget around what you already have today, not what you might have sometime in the near future.

You’re making $50,000 today. That’s what you have to work with, not $75,000. If you buy today, setting your budget based on a future expectation of a massive increase in salary, you’re setting yourself up for failure.

Here’s what I recommend to anyone that is considering buying, in any market. First, go to your preferred mortgage broker, bank, or credit union and find out what kind of loans you are qualified for, how much you can borrow, and what your monthly payment would be. Getting a pre-qualification does not require you to commit to a lender or a loan, but will tell you for sure how much you can borrow.

For example, let’s say you were pre-qualified for a $250,000 loan, with a monthly principal + interest payment of $1,100. Add in probable taxes and insurance (we’ll say another $350 / month), and you’ve got a total monthly PITI obligation of $1,450. With a yearly salary of $50,000, that comes out to 34% of your gross income.

Here’s a simple affordability calculator I posted earlier this year to help you quickly calculate your own personal affordability situation.

Personally, my absolute upper limit would be 30%, but even that would come out to $1,250 a month for you, which is over three times what you’re paying right now. Figure out what you think you’d be comfortable with, and then force yourself to live with that budget for six months, saving the difference between your current rent and your expected monthly house payment.

If you succeed in living within that budget for six months, you’ll have a pretty good idea of what other sacrifices you’ll have to make to buy the house, and you’ll have another $5,000+ in the bank to help pay for closing costs or your down payment. If your salary does end up rising by 50%, either stick to what you could afford with $50k, or get pre-qualified again with the new salary, and “test drive” your budget again with the new salary.

2) If you decide to buy, pay a price that you think is fair for the house today (assume that it may stagnate or decrease in value in the future).

One surefire way to set yourself up for financial problems in the future is to rationalize your decision to buy a house by convincing yourself that it is a great financial investment.

There are plenty of great reasons to buy a house. Buy a house because you want a place that you have control over. Buy a house because you want stability. Buy a house because you want to plant a garden. Buy a house because you want to breed Irish Wolfhounds. Just don’t buy a house because you think it will make you money. Maybe it will, maybe it won’t, but that factor should not be a part of your decision-making process.

3) Keep your eye on bank-owned houses, and look for homes that need a little work.

There are definitely some good deals to be found out there today, but they’re not in the owner-occupied homes that have been “upgraded” with hardwood floors, granite countertops, and a fresh coat of paint on the outside. High curb appeal may sell a house fast, but it doesn’t sell a house at a good bargain. If you’re willing to put in a little bit of work, look for bank-owned fixers.

The Bottom Line: Know what you’re getting into.

Nobody can tell you what you should do, since no two people have the same financial situation. My recommendation is just that you do the research, critically evaluate your finances, and should you decide to buy, do so with realistic expectations.

So what’s your advice for Seattle Bill? Let’s hear from the commenters.

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Reader Question: Seeking First-Time Buyer Advice

By The Tim on March 23rd, 2009 at 11:16 AM · 78 Comments

Once in a while I like to feature individual requests for advice from readers. The following was posted on the forums by a reader going by the name “Novice.”

Advice Please!

I am a long time resident of Seattle and a renter. I am currently spending $700 / month to live on a tiny boat – I have to move out on June 1. I am 40 years old, I made the mistake of NOT buying in Seattle 15 years ago and now I feel that the bursting bubble has given me another opportunity to buy a home in this city. (where there are still homes and not condos that is)

My questions are: Should I buy? When should I buy?

Here is some more information:

I can afford to pay $2k / month – but I would prefer to pay less.

I can put 20% down on a $300K home (let’s say this is my max price)

I can qualify for a 30 yr fixed rate mortgage.

This would be my first home.

I would intend to hold the property for at least 5 – 10 yrs and rent it out it if I am not living in it.

I am in no rush to buy – I do need to live somewhere but I work from “home” and I can find temporary living quarters / sublet / leave town for some time etc…

I would buy the small / dumpy house on the nice street in the nice neighborhood – this is what i am looking for…

So, Do I buy? When do I buy? How will I know when the time is right?

Another question – I saw a beautiful cottage in a fantastic neighborhood that I would love to live in – it was priced at $280K – price lowered 10K from 6 weeks ago when it was first listed. The same property sold for $255K in 2005 and for only $150K in 2000. How can one determine the “real” value of the property?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I’m going to reiterate my five self-examination questions that I think everyone should be able to answer affirmatively before deciding to buy a home:

  • Do you like the home well enough to stay there for at least 5-10 years?
  • Do you feel that the home is priced fairly?
  • Can you afford it using a conventional 30-year fixed-rate loan?
  • Do you have a minimum 3-month emergency fund that is not part of your down payment?
  • Would you be able to handle it both financially and emotionally if the value of your home dropped considerably after purchase?

If you can answer yes to all of these questions, then I would say the answer to “should I buy” could be yes. Note of course that these are the minimum requirements.

Novice, it sounds like you are already thinking along these lines, so you’re already ahead of the game in that department.

As far as whether an individual home is priced fairly, a good starting point would be the rough pricing calculator we posted here, or a site like EstiMike. You should also compare the asking price to what similar properties in the neighborhood have sold for recently. Redfin is a good tool for this (uncheck all current listings and check only past sales).

In the end, the “real” value of a property is simply what someone is willing to pay for it, right? So if after studying the market you think a property is priced fairly, and you believe it strongly enough to commit $464,000 (the full cost of a $240,000 loan at 5% over 30 years), then I say go for it.

What advice do you, the readers, have for Novice? Have I missed something that needs to be considered? Let’s hear it.

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Has Greed Ruined Seattle’s Livability?

By The Tim on September 4th, 2008 at 12:41 PM · 60 Comments

I received the following in an email from a reader:

About the condo—comment article… the real issue is not the really cheap/ugly/tasteless and likely unlivable condos (apartments). Nor is it the equally horrible “townhouses.” It is about greed and lack of public (government) oversight and control.

The developers wanted the money, the government wanted the taxes and fees. The people were too busy raking in the first real money the bulk of Seattle has ever seen in history… to say HEY, what the heck are you doing.

Sad, the city I have loved for years is nearly off my list. No wonder the lovely, polite, civil people have turned rude and nasty (in a Northwest passive-aggressive kind of way).

This kind of behavior and housing greed has ruined many cities in this country…

How about opening a dialog on how to take back our city and stop being passive-aggressive whiners and start being organized and vocal about KEEPING our fabulous city just that.

This is not about money or affordability, it is about planning and demanding our rights as residents of a wonderful, (almost) world class city and LIVABILITY.

So what do you think? Has greed and lack of government oversight ruined the culture of Seattle? If so, can anything be done about it, or is it too late?

I’m interested to hear what people think about this topic.

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Working it Out in Different Price Ranges

By The Tim on July 21st, 2008 at 11:44 AM · 86 Comments

I got a pair of emails this weekend that are worth discussion. Here’s a portion of the first:

…we’re looking at buying a townhouse as a temporary place to stay. Our income is pretty good, more than 100k a year.

But the math that’s involved in figuring out all the possibilities of whether its better to rent or buy (we’re renting at $1800 a month right now) is sorta complicated, especially considering the number of unknowns.

The second was from a 23-year-old looking for their first home:

…not being able to afford the minimum 400k condo (or 600k houses)… Is there any place for me to look where I can find postings and debate this healthy on homes in the 200-300k range? (which I guess is obviously not in downtown or on the east side.)

While the “real estate is local” cliché is certainly true, it is also true that even in a specific local region, the market for high-priced properties for sale or rent will be quite different than the low end of the market. When we plug the numbers for rent vs. own type scenarios on here, we typically do numbers close to the median / average, where it’s still easy to find a rental for 50-75% of the cost to buy.

What have you been seeing out there in different price ranges? Are there some price ranges where the numbers actually come out in favor of buying in today’s market?

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Ask the Readers: Upgrading – Sell Now, or Wait it Out?

By The Tim on June 10th, 2008 at 6:00 AM · 38 Comments

A reader posted the following question in the forums a few days ago, and while there has been some good advice and discussion there, I thought it would be good to bring the question to the larger audience of the blog for feedback as well.

I have owned a 2-bed 1 bath 975 sq.ft. condo, built in the late 70s, in the middle of Fremont since fall of ‘03, and for a lot of reasons I’d like to move into a house or townhome in a lower-nightlife Seattle neighborhood.

My husband is starting a 10-month graduate program in July and will not be working, and while we can subsist in the condo on my teacher income, we can’t really afford to increase the mortgage until he goes back to work. FYI, my husband is a social worker and right now I make more than he does.

Oh, and we’re trying to get pregnant and ideally we’d like to move into a place that will work for us with up to two kids. It’s been our plan to stick it out until grad school is over and the kids actually arrive, but I’m telling you: Fremont is really really starting to drive us crazy.

So as I see it, I have four options.

  1. Stick it out in frat boy hell for another year with the plans to sell next summer.
  2. Sell now and buy a house with a risky loan (interest only ARM?) that will have an artificially low payment with plans to refinance when my husband goes back to work in a year.
  3. Sell now and rent until hubby goes back to work, buy next summer.
  4. Rent out our condo to frat boys and rent a house until the right time comes around to buy.

I’m not really a big fan of #4, but choosing between options #1-3 requires me to have a clue about the state of the market… and it turns out I don’t have one. I’ll take thoughts from anyone who is willing to give me the time of day… Thanks for reading.

Sarah

The consensus on the forum seems to be that option #3 is her best choice. I agree with that advice, assuming that she’s willing to price aggressively (see regular biliruben’s first-hand advice on that here) and can find a good deal to rent a place that her family will be happy in for a year or two (be sure to check out our how-to on watching Craigslist for rentals here).

What advice do you have for Sarah?

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Reader Question: Are Seattle home purchasers crazy?

By The Tim on December 12th, 2007 at 11:46 AM · 77 Comments

Here’s an email I got from someone named Andy:

I am in the process of relocating to the Seattle area from the Midwest and have been monitoring your blog in an attempt to get some insight into the local real estate scene.

First, thank you for your highly interesting and informative blog. Knowledge is power and you certainly are providing some interesting information for the consumer.

Here are my questions for you. What is with the psyche of local home buyers and sellers in the Seattle market that they are willing to overpay for housing (at least that is my impression)? Am I crazy to pay what people are asking for a home?

Let me elaborate. I have been scouring every information source I can for real estate information in order to become the most informed consumer I can. Here is what I have learned in a nut shell. Nationwide housing is in a slump (to put it lightly). For example the recent announcement that U.S. median sales price of a new home fell 13 percent in October, compared with a year ago. There are some markets however (Seattle, Salt Lake City, San Jose) whose home prices actually rose YOY. I get that Seattle is somewhat special in terms of real estate markets.

An additional piece of information is that I’m one of those people that wants to be a home owner. I appreciate that home ownership may not be the smartest financial move when compared to renting (especially at this time) but I put a great deal of value on the intangibles. I have two small children and the concept of “home” is very important to me so I accept the potential financial downside of home ownership.

BUT as you have stated on your blog, Seattle prices rose 4.69% YOY as of September. So here is my conundrum. I have been monitoring housing prices on the internet using various real estate tools. I have been specifically monitoring a few houses to see if their asking prices are dropping, how long they stay on the market and what the actually sell for. I have noticed a disturbing trend that I simply can’t figure out and would like your insight. I have monitored a couple of houses (in Issaquah and Bellevue for example) that were purchased in September of 2006 for around $600,000. They were put on the market in the fall (September-ish) and the asking prices were about $720,000. My calculations show that these people were expecting a 20% increase in the value of their property in one year. Is that realistic for Seattle regardless of the market – prior to 2007 were people really getting 20% annual growth. The interesting thing is that I have seen the asking price for these properties now drop to about $695,000. This is still a 16% increase. If the numbers show that Seattle prices rose 4.69% YOY as of September, why would anyone pay more than $628,140 for a house that was previously purchased in 2006 for $600,000? Furthermore, I’m thinking for that house that was purchased in 2006 for $600,000 I would pay about $610,000 right now because even though it gained 4.69% in 2007 it will probably lose value in 2008. Are Seattle home purchasers crazy enough to pay $700,000 for a house that was just purchased a year ago for only $600,000?

Andy seems to have three basic questions: Do you have to be crazy to pay today’s home prices in Seattle? Is an asking price 20% over last year’s purchase price realistic? And lastly, how does the median home price relate to specific houses?

To address the last two questions, I will point out the statistics only tell part of the story. We primarily focus on the median single-family home price in King County when discussing prices here, but that number is useful only in gaining an overall picture of market direction, and is fairly useless when trying to determine a reasonable price for a specific home. There are a few reasons for this. First, as has been discussed here a couple of times before, the median price can easily be (and has been) skewed by a change in the demographic mix of homes sold.

Secondly, while the market in general tends to build momentum and move together in the same general direction, every neighborhood has its own unique considerations that will result in larger or smaller changes in price. For example, looking at the county-wide statistics (or even the more local NWMLS areas within a county) won’t tell you that a particular neighborhood just had a big box store approved to build two blocks from a home you’re looking at, causing its value to drop like a rock. When you are seriously interested in a particular home or neighborhood, you really need to look at all the factors that affect that particular location.

That being said, if the county-wide median is flat year-over-year (which it is), it’s a pretty safe bet that someone asking 20% over last year’s price has got their head in the clouds (to put it politely). Maybe that neighborhood has had some significant improvements in the last year, making them more desirable relative to other choices in the Seattle area, and a 5% would be realistic. You can’t tell just by looking at median prices though. Statistics are useful for gaining a high-level view, but to know whether a particular house should be appreciating and by how much, you have to look at that particular house.

As far as the more general question about the sanity of those that would shell out $600,000 for a run-of-the-mill house in Seattle, my personal opinion is that most people paying these prices have been caught up in the “bubble mentality.” It’s the little voice that says:

Look how fast prices are going up! Don’t you want to get in on that action? You know, if you don’t take advantage of it and buy now, you’re going to be priced out forever! You don’t want to be the only one of your peer group that doesn’t get a ride on the equity train, do you? Buy now before it’s too late!

For a great example of this mentality in action, check out this article I highlighted in 2006. It’s that mentality coupled with the easy, standards-free lending we saw 2004-2006 that pushed prices up to their present ridiculous highs.

However, as I’ve said many times before, if you have the finances, place a high value on the “intangibles,” and can tolerate the downside risk of buying now, more power to you. I’d at least hope that you will take your time home shopping and not pay full asking price for whatever place you end up selecting.

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