King 5 Evening Magazine: Real Estate Week

Just a quick note to let you know that King 5 Evening Magazine will be airing a series of segments this week under the banner “Real Estate ’08,” which as you can guess, are all about the local real estate market. You can catch the segments on their website, or on TV from 7:00 to 7:30. Yesterday’s stories looked at building perks to try to lure you into condos (with a guest appearance from my least-favorite SPU profs), Zillow’s “Make Me Move” feature, and (I wish I were making this up), a “house-selling spiritualist.”

One of the segments later this week will feature me gabbing with co-host Jim Dever about Seattle Bubble and the local market. I’ll probably post that particular segment on here once it airs.

P.S. (If the King 5 website tries to get you to register to view any of the above links, just remove the “” part from the address bar and try again.)

Update: I’ll be on tomorrow night. In the promo after tonight’s show they plugged my segment with the line “he’s the Seattle Real Estate guru who doesn’t even own a house!” That’s amusing to me, because I have never, nor would I ever refer to myself as a “real estate guru.”

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About The Tim

Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market. Tim also hosts the weekly improv comedy sci-fi podcast Dispatches from the Multiverse.


  1. 1
    Ubersalad says:

    perhaps I should write to evening magazine and ask them to interview pepper and losh…

  2. 2
    Demersus says:

    What a nice fluff piece; doubt it will sell any million $ condos though.

  3. 3
    Everett_Tom says:

    oooooh. I liked the one with the spiritualist…

    summary: Beware of bad furniture, it can stop the house sale.. even if it’s hidden in the garage. (I’m sure the new carpet and 10% drop in asking had nothing to do with really..)

  4. 4
    uwp says:

    Oh god, Les and Leslie live in a 5k sq ft condo at 2200. I think I just thew up in my mouth a little. Thank goodness they have housecleaning once a week!!!


  5. 5
    EconE says:

    Les was your least favorite SPU prof?

    I’ve gotten the cold shoulder treatment from him too.

    I love it!

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    Buceri says:

    Some talking points –

    -what makes me a guru, is precisely the fact that I am a renter looking to buy, and have been following the market for some 2 years now.

    -has your salary gone up 70% since 2003? Then how can we sustain the increase in the price of housing?

    -so, “real estate experts” expect a recovery by early 2009; but Nobel Laureates in economics expect the worst and longest recession since 1930. How do we explain that one?

    And finally;

    -if everything is so rosy – why are you having “real estate week”??

    Good luck

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    Buceri says:

    Oh yeah, then add jewels like this one…

    Americans unload prized belongings to make ends meet
    AP Business WriterTue Apr 29, 6:04 PM ET

    The for-sale listings on the online hub Craigslist come with plaintive notices, like the one from the teenager in Georgia who said her mother lost her job and pleaded, “Please buy anything you can to help out.”

    Or the seller in Milwaukee who wrote in one post of needing to pay bills — and put a diamond engagement ring up for bids to do it.

    Struggling with mounting debt and rising prices, faced with the toughest economic times since the early 1990s, Americans are selling prized possessions online and at flea markets at alarming rates.

    To meet higher gas, food and prescription drug bills, they are selling off grandmother’s dishes and their own belongings. Some of the household purging has been extremely painful — families forced to part with heirlooms.

    “This is not about downsizing. It’s about needing gas money,” said Nancy Baughman, founder of eBizAuctions, an online auction service she runs out of her garage in Raleigh, N.C. One former affluent customer is now unemployed and had to unload Hermes leather jackets and Versace jeans and silk shirts.

    At Craigslist, which has become a kind of online flea market for the world, the number of for-sale listings has soared 70 percent since last July. In March, the number of listings more than doubled to almost 15 million from the year-ago period.

    Craigslist CEO Jeff Buckmaster acknowledged the increasing popularity of selling all sort of items on the Web, but said the rate of growth is “moving above the usual trend line.” He said he was amazed at the desperate tone in some ads.

    In Daleville, Ala., Ellona Bateman-Lee has turned to eBay and flea markets to empty her three-bedroom mobile home of DVDs, VCRs, stereos and televisions.

    She said she needs the cash to help pay for soaring food and utility bills and mounting health care expenses since her husband, Bob, suffered an electric shock on the job as a dump truck driver in 2006 and is now disabled.

    Among her most painful sales: her grandmother’s teakettle. She sold it for $6 on eBay.

    “My grandmother raised me, so it hurt,” she said. “We’ve had bouts here and there, but we always got by. This time it’s different.”

    Economists say it is difficult to compare the selling trend with other tough times because the Internet, only in wide use since the mid-1990s, has made it much easier to unload goods than, say, at pawn shops.

    But clearly, cash-strapped people are selling their belongings at bargain prices, with a flood of listings for secondhand cars, clothing and furniture hitting the market in recent months, particularly since January.

    Earlier this decade, people tapped their inflated home equity and credit cards to fuel a buying binge. Now, slumping home values and a credit crisis have sapped sources of cash.

    Meanwhile, soaring gas and food prices haven’t kept pace with meager wage growth. Gas prices have already hit $4 per gallon in some places, and that could become more widespread this summer. The weakening job market is another big worry.

    Christine Hadley, a 53-year-old registered nurse from Reading, Pa., says she used to be “a clotheshorse,” splurging on pricey Dooney & Bourke handbags. But her live-in boyfriend left last year, and she has had trouble finding a job.

    Piles of unpaid bills forced her to sell more than 80 items, including the handbags, which went for more than $1,000 on a site called Now, except for some artwork and threadbare furniture, her house is looking sparse.

    “I need the money for essentials — to pay my bills and to eat,” Hadley said.

    At, which helps novices sell things online, for-sale listings rose 66 percent from February to March, much faster than the 25 percent to 30 percent average monthly pace since the company was formed in September, CEO Maureen Ellenberger said. She said she was surprised to see that most of her clients desperately needed to sell items to raise cash.

    For, a classifieds and business directory site, for-sale listings for January through March rose 10 percent from the previous year.

    “We can definitely detect economic stress on the part of the consumer,” said John Raven, the site’s chief operating officer.

    On Craigslist, Buckmaster said, three of the four fastest-growing for-sale categories are tied to gas — recreational vehicles like campers and trailers, cars and trucks, and boats.

    Raven noted more and more listings for furniture, particularly in areas around Miami and Las Vegas and other regions hardest hit by the housing crisis.

    Baughman, who runs eBizAuctions, said that over the past four months she’s been working with mostly desperate sellers instead of mainly casual ones. Most are middle-class customers who can’t pay their bills and now want to be paid up front for the items instead of waiting until they are sold, she said.

    The trend may be hurting secondhand stores too. Donations to the Salvation Army were down 20 percent in the January-to-March period. George Hood, the charity’s national community relations and development secretary, said that was probably partly because people were selling their belongings instead.

    And secondhand buyers want better deals now as well, driving prices down. Secondhand merchandise online is going for 25 to 35 percent below what it commanded a year ago, estimated Brian Riley, senior analyst at research firm The TowerGroup.

    “It won’t hit the saturation point until the (economy) hits the bottom and right now, we don’t know when that is,” he said.

    In Alabama, Bateman-Lee said that she only received $30 for her TV and $45 for her DVD player at a local flea market. She doesn’t have too much left to sell, but she’s going back to “sort through more things.”

    Her $30 water bill is due this week.

  8. 8
    The Tim says:

    Those are good points Buceri, but the piece was filmed a few weeks ago :^)

  9. 9
    Dave says:

    Hi Tim;

    I hate to say it but I told you so. Every person who will try to make the argument counter to yours will pull out the “but he doesn’t own a house/has a rich friend that lets him live for free” argument. I know that doesn’t fly here – but in communications with the “outside world” outside this blog where attention spans are about 20 seconds – that will be the primary thing they say to neutralize your argument.
    Are you concerned (wouldn’t think you would be) or do you have a counter that can also fit into a sound byte?


  10. 10
    The Tim says:

    Dave, I guess I have a different take. The “doesn’t even own a house” bit in the promo just seemed like the classic TV lure, intended to frame the story to make it seem as interesting as possible so the viewer will be sure to tune in and watch. I doubt the piece itself will be geared toward trying to counter or neutralize my argument, though I could certainly be wrong.

    King 5 has treated me pretty well in my appearances with them in the past, and I don’t expect this to be much different. I guess we’ll just have to see how it goes tonight :^)

    I guess if I were to try to come up with a sound bite counter to the “he doesn’t own a house, so he isn’t qualified to analyze the real estate market” line (which again, I don’t think King 5 was intending to convey), it would be something along the lines of “the data doesn’t care whether I own a house or not.” That’s just off the top of my head, but I’m not really overly concerned about sound bites one way or the other.

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