Monday Open Thread (2012-07-30)

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Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market. Tim also hosts the weekly improv comedy sci-fi podcast Dispatches from the Multiverse.


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    Blurtman says:

    Romney outrages Palestinians by suggesting Israeli culture is superior

    During a fundraiser for Jewish-American supporters, Romney hinted that the Israeli economy is prospering, unlike the Palestinian Authority, due to its superior culture.

    Hey, Mitt, perhaps work will set the Palestinians free, eh?

  2. 2

    By Blurtman @ 1:

    Hey, Mitt, perhaps work will set the Palestinians free, eh?

    Just not blowing themselves and other people up would be a start!

  3. 3
    Blutman says:

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 2 – Yes, perhaps they could acquire high altitude stealth bombers, or perhaps drones, and do it the civilized way.

  4. 4
    Tatiana Kalashnikov says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 1

    “Romney outrages Palestinians by suggesting Israeli culture is superior.”

    Mitt is correct. The Palestinians choose to live is self-imposed squalor while Israel continues to build an oasis in the desert. I have been to Israel and it is very clean, modern and European. I have also been in Palestinian lands. There are no trees, no gardens, just filth and desolation. They choose this way of life to blame Israel for their plight. But they have no one to blame but themselves. Pathetic.

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    Blurtman says:

    RE: Tatiana Kalashnikov @ 4 – Interesting. And do these thoughts also extend to Africa?

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    David Losh says:

    RE: Tatiana Kalashnikov @ 4

    I’ve also been to Israel, and Palestine, and for an occupied country, that has been strangled from any, and all economic development I found Palatine much more cultured than Israel.

    We also contribute economically to Israel who in turn has done nothing but exploit the Palestinian people.

    Romney is another United States embarrassment, who is racist, self-centered, and completely out of touch with reality.

    Israel is cleaner, I’ll give you that shallow point, but it’s the Palestinians who do the labor.

    This was another misstep for the Romney campaign.

    Most of the conservative base Romney could have appealed to also look at Israel sideways. Israel is kind of a complete welfare State. How do you reconcile that?

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    David Losh says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 5

    or Mexico, South America, Central America, China, or Russia?

    Wait a minute, or anywhere outside of European influence? to put it nicely.

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    By Blutman @ 3:

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 2 – Yes, perhaps they could acquire high altitude stealth bombers, or perhaps drones, and do it the civilized way.

    Exactly! ;-)

  9. 9

    As further evidence that C-S is affected by mix, it’s up from 133.84 April
    to 137.37 in May. I’m still not seeing that this index provides that much usefulness, other than to S&P.

  10. 10
    Blurtman says:

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 8 – How about cluster bombs to blow the limbs off little kids? Now that is the sign of a superior culture.

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    Hugh Dominic says:

    By David Losh @ 6:

    RE: Tatiana Kalashnikov @ 4

    This was another misstep for the Romney campaign.

    I’m going to wager that it isn’t. I think he’s better off bringing the Jewish vote to the polls, and not in danger of losing a large base of Arabs.

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    Hugh Dominic says:

    By Blurtman @ 5:

    RE: Tatiana Kalashnikov @ 4 – Interesting. And do these thoughts also extend to Africa?

    I hope so. Africa is a cornucopia of failed governments, dictators, and native cultural models that do not work at the scale of its population. I think the “Europeans screwed it up!” excuse has now expired.

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    sofwarenginer says:

    RE: Hugh Dominic @ 12

    And Somehow Its All America’s Fault Too

    Ask the Pope in Europe if America needs to fill itself with world overpopulation to become more “Christ-like”

    I wonder what the Pope would say if the 3-4 billion of the world’s hungry all headed for the Vatican in Italy?

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    David Losh says:

    RE: Hugh Dominic @ 11

    He didn’t.

    Romney got a $100 Million pledge to his canpaign for his speech, but most people would have preferred he left Palastine out of the equation.

    The wall was kind of the last straw for many in Israel who would want some type of peace. The settlements are another sore spot. Now Israel is pushing for ultra Orthodox to be drafted into the military.

    It’s like catering to a small segment of hard line hawkish conservatives.

    He got his money, but it will cost him votes on all sides, but especially his own ultra conservative base.

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    David Losh says:

    RE: Hugh Dominic @ 12

    All civilization came out of Africa. Africa had nations, leaders, great cities, cultures, art, and science for thousands, or millions of years before there were people in Europe.

    African has made several deals for natural resources with several countries, China is now the biggest player in securing the rights to commodities. In the mean time the Continent remains divided.

    It’s interesting when people talk about culture, and poverty.

    The United States sends aid to Africa, but how much do we actually invest? We want mineral rights, but how much do we negotiate in trade?

    Africa can feed itself, but there’s no incentive to organize, or negotiate cross border treaties. Why is that? Why isn’t Africa more like Europe? or Russia?

    Because out of 1.3 Billion people in China 1Billion live in poverty, so China is kind of in the same boat as Africa, along with India.

    How many people live in poverty in the United States? Is Mississippi the same as New York? Why can’t the people of Mississippi be as well off as the people in New York?

    Is that failed government? corruption?

    Well then, as Mitt points out, we have Mexico, Central America, and South America, especially Equator, which Mitt single out.

    The answer is that Africa is far more cultured than Europe. Europeans were painting each other blue, and running around with sticks, and screaming while Africa was a Continent of great wealth.

    It’s just different, it’s not what you are used to, so it must be wrong, according to you.

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