Monday Open Thread (2013-02-04)

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Here is your open thread for Monday February 4th, 2013. You may post random links and off-topic discussions here. Also, if you have an idea or a topic you’d like to see covered in an article, please make it known.

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About The Tim

Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market.


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    A lot of you will probably be happy to see this, and it probably is well deserved, but it really makes me wonder what is the statute of limitations on federal financial crimes? We’re now over 5 years out from when the problem first became apparent.

  2. 2

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 1 – When I read that article, I thought it said criminal charges.

  3. 3

    By Blurtman @ 17:

    Jeep – Proudly exploiting the plight of returning soldiers to sell cars. Bravo! Impeccable moral standards!

    Does no one have any shame anymore?

    After looking at that commercial again, my comment would be slightly different.

    When you advertise your charitable contributions in the most blatant way possible, a Super Bowl ad, are they still charitable contributions?

    [I’m not referring to tax law, but instead motivation.]

  4. 4
    Blurtman says:

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 3 – The other issue is that it sugarcoats the war. Having actors stand in for real people to enact a vison right out of a Norman Rockwell painting. Did they show disfigured returning troops in the ad?

    A better ad would have been to show a Jeep Grand Cherokee cruising around Iraq, running over the severed body parts of women and children blown up by US airpower. With George Bush at the wheel laughing about the whole thing.

  5. 5

    RE: Blurtman @ 4

    I Think the Gas Hog Toyota Tundra With the Bush Bumper Sticker

    And the American flag waving was the far right’s vehicle of choice in the out-skirts of the Seattle area, where the red necks gather [like east of Marysville].

  6. 6

    On the shadow inventory issue, I know a house that was foreclosed over three months ago, but is still not listed despite work having been started on it shortly after the foreclosure. I called the firm I knew would be handling the listing, and explained that that I was calling about a property that had been foreclosed but not listed. Just from that description the agent was able to narrow it down to two properties, and this is a brokerage that has a sizable number of REO listings.

    I checked it out and didn’t see anything obvious affecting title. The one thing that would probably always hold up a listing would be an IRS lien, because they have a right of redemption, but that was not the case here.

  7. 7
    Blurtman says:

    Winning! In the Obama Recovery.

    8,830,026: Americans on Disability Hits New Record for 192nd Straight Month

    ( – The number of American workers collecting federal disability payments climbed to yet another record high of 8,830,026 in January, up from 8,827,795 in December, according to newly released data from the Social Security Administration.

    This is the 192nd straight month that the number of American workers collecting federal disability payments has increased. The last time the number of Americans collecting disability decreased was in January 1997. That month the number of workers taking disability dropped by 249 people—from 4,385,623 in December 1996 to 4,385,374 in January 1997.

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