Weekly Open Thread (2014-09-15)

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Here is your open thread for the week of September 15th, 2014. You may post random links and off-topic discussions here. Also, if you have an idea or a topic you’d like to see covered in an article, please make it known.

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About The Tim

Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market. Tim also hosts the weekly improv comedy sci-fi podcast Dispatches from the Multiverse.

72 comments:

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    The Seattle Area Has Zombie Homes Too

    I was at my son’s house yesterday and saw a decrepit looking Kent home between two occupied ones….I asked if it was abandonned, and was told it was. I imagine they’re not all that easy to spot, especially in expensive neighborhoods….

    http://news.yahoo.com/zombie-homes-haunt-florida-neighborhoods-090000987.html

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    Brian Cantor says:

    I saw this story regarding California real estate and wondered if this was really in play.

    http://wolfstreet.com/2014/09/13/california-home-sales-collapse-prices-hit-wall-millennials-blamed/

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    The Tim says:

    Interesting and relevant to this site: http://boingboing.net/2014/09/15/downvoting-considered-harmful.html

    A study [PDF] published in a journal of the Association for the Advancement of Artificial Intelligence found that sites that have a “downvote” button to punish bad comments lock the downvoted users into spirals of ever-more-prolific, ever-lower-quality posting due to a perception of having been martyred by the downvoters.

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    By The Tim @ 4:

    Interesting and relevant to this site: http://boingboing.net/2014/09/15/downvoting-considered-harmful.html

    A study [PDF] published in a journal of the Association for the Advancement of Artificial Intelligence found that sites that have a “downvote” button to punish bad comments lock the downvoted users into spirals of ever-more-prolific, ever-lower-quality posting due to a perception of having been martyred by the downvoters.

    Dang! Where’s the down thumb ?

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    ChrisM says:

    RE: The Tim @ 4 – As we’ve discussed in the past, Slashdot’s moderation is pretty darn good, and they certainly have a downvote.

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    RE: The Tim @ 4

    Yes Tim

    I’d also bet there’s a group [minority?] of pig heads politically that automatically “group down thumb together” against opposing opinions, whether their opinion is the majority or not. It likely unnecessarily ruins the website as you alleged, by unnecessarily debasing opposing opinion bloggers.

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    Blurtman says:

    Instead of just a thumbs down icon, why not add additional icons, but not too many. A dog doo icon, a Condi Rice mushroom cloud icon, etc. And on the positive side, perhaps a George W. Bush in a cheesy flight suit bring it on icon, a George Tenet slam dunk icon, etc.

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    redmondjp says:

    By Blurtman @ 8:

    Instead of just a thumbs down icon, why not add additional icons, but not too many. A dog doo icon, a Condi Rice mushroom cloud icon, etc. And on the positive side, perhaps a George W. Bush in a cheesy flight suit bring it on icon, a George Tenet slam dunk icon, etc.

    How about a gong show icon?

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    wreckingbull says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 8 – Hey now, some say she’s cold, but I think she’s hot.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avwJPNmCDh0

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    Blurtman says:

    RE: redmondjp @ 9 – That show was great!

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    Azucar says:

    RE: The Tim @ 4

    Maybe the removal of the downthumb at this site is why Eric hasn’t been posting as much lately… maybe he’s pulling out of the downward spiral of ever more prolific and ill thought out posts that he had been on. I mean, they’re still obviously lacking in thought, but at least they’re not as prolific.

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    Boeing got a $4B contract to launch people into space. Seems like an odd choice given their Sea Launch record.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Launch#Launches

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    redmondjp says:

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 13:

    Boeing got a $4B contract to launch people into space. Seems like an odd choice given their Sea Launch record.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Launch#Launches

    The big question: what effect (if any) will this have on the local Boeing workforce number?

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    Blurtman says:

    Happy Days are here again! Triple A, baby!

    Fitch And Kroll Are Happy To Make Mortgage Securitization Fun Again

    http://dealbreaker.com/2013/03/fitch-and-kroll-are-happy-to-make-mortgage-securitization-fun-again/

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    Macro Investor says:

    By Azucar @ 12:

    RE: The Tim @ 4

    Maybe the removal of the downthumb at this site is why Eric hasn’t been posting as much lately… maybe he’s pulling out of the downward spiral of ever more prolific and ill thought out posts that he had been on. I mean, they’re still obviously lacking in thought, but at least they’re not as prolific.

    At the mental hospital, patients don’t have access to computers or phones.

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    DrRick says:

    By The Tim @ 4:

    Interesting and relevant to this site: http://boingboing.net/2014/09/15/downvoting-considered-harmful.html

    A study [PDF] published in a journal of the Association for the Advancement of Artificial Intelligence found that sites that have a “downvote” button to punish bad comments lock the downvoted users into spirals of ever-more-prolific, ever-lower-quality posting due to a perception of having been martyred by the downvoters.

    Martyred. That explains a lot. Verified by our experience on this blog.

    Fel Temp Reparatio

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    DrRick says:

    By Blurtman @ 16:

    Music pick for Wednesday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA9n3cDixB8

    They were in Seattle a few weeks ago, I was too toasted from work to plan it.
    I was in residency during the 80s so I missed all the music the first time around. Must say, I enjoy it now.

    Fel Temp Reparatio

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    DrRick says:

    By Macro Investor @ 17:

    By Azucar @ 12:

    RE: The Tim @ 4

    Maybe the removal of the downthumb at this site is why Eric hasn’t been posting as much lately… maybe he’s pulling out of the downward spiral of ever more prolific and ill thought out posts that he had been on. I mean, they’re still obviously lacking in thought, but at least they’re not as prolific.

    At the mental hospital, patients don’t have access to computers or phones.

    Yes, we do.

    FTR

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    By pfft @ 23:

    WONK FIGHT!

    Nate Silver versus Sam Wang
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/09/17/nate-silver-versus-sam-wang/

    I love how they’re calling it the “Duel of Dweebs.”
    The Ira prediction is that the Dems keep the Senate, but barely.
    Those candidates who Obama visits to campaign for will lose.

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    RE: Ira Sacharoff @ 24

    I See That Too IRA

    I also see many independent Democrats making this a moot point, when they vote against the DNC wishes to keep their job. Its already happenning with the stagnant job growth horrifying the voters and trumping the spend growth billionaires’ wishes, like the Democrat icon NWO Soros.

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    Even the MSM is Beginning to Admit It

    The Millenial job scarcity, degreed or not, is making it mandatory for the Baby Boomers [some X Gens now too] to “safe harbor” this generation from an outsourced booming stock market with no jobs. This means provide them a roof at home, help them financially and keep them out of homelessness, which keeps growing at about a 10% clip the last 6 years for our youth.

    http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Number-of-homeless-students-growing-in-Washington-247683961.html

    The article above alleges it doesn’t know why this is happenning. Hades, just pull the stagnant BLS labor market stats and IMO, that says it all. Couple this with horrifying growing Seattle area population and you create the “perfect storm”.

    http://blogs.seattletimes.com/fyi-guy/2014/05/22/census-seattle-is-the-fastest-growing-big-city-in-the-u-s/

    My advice for your young adults in your family….get some college education for them you can pay cash for or your family pays for [no loans]…and parents, prepare yourself to help your youth financially well into their 30s. It sucks, but its definitely a NWO norm in America now. A new paradigm. Do what I did, if you don’t want them in your home forever….encourage them to move somewhere else that’s vastly cheaper than Seattle….then help them there if you can.

    Hades, put off the plan of paying in-state tuition of like $24,000/yr at the U 0f W [the state budget has already cut college funding 40% because of the state deficit], and buy a foreclosed home for them for about the same cash in like Kansas City instead, like I did. My escrow papers and wire transfer for the Deed closed yesterday. My Millenial daughter is totally relieved, so am I. That will give her about a $1M boost in her lifetime income [not paying rent and/or mortgage]…and in my opinion, spending mass money on college won’t.

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    RE: softwarengineer @ 26

    I Agree With This MSM Article

    “Instead of QE, Fed could have given $56k to every household in America The Fed acknowledged Wednesday that, as the economic recovery slowly builds, its grand experiment is now coming to an end.”

    We’ll see, they said the same exact thing years ago and it never happenned.

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    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 28

    With a Broke Budget Needing Like 30% in 2015 Sequestration Butcher Axing [DOD too]

    How would we fund another war anyway? The Tooth Fairy?

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    RE: softwarengineer @ 29 – I don’t see how that is responsive to the point. The point is that by having a weak President that the Iranians are mocking, it is more likely that we’ll see Iranian troops in Iraq. The choice is not ours on whether that occurs.

    But I will again point out that Obama’s decision to not leave any troops in Iraq has made this mess more likely and more difficult. Thinking that Iraqi troops could deal with every issue that could pop up was not only foolish, and has been proven foolish. There’s a reason we have had troops in Europe and South Korea for years after the end of conflicts.

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    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 30

    Yes Kary

    They should have left a skeleton, or better yet, gradually disappearred without telling the enemy. That wouldn’t get votes though….LOL

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    RE: softwarengineer @ 31 – Obama sometimes claims that Iraq wouldn’t let us stay. That just shows how weak Obama is, and how poor of a negotiator he is.

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    pfft says:

    By softwarengineer @ 27:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 26

    I Agree With This MSM Article

    “Instead of QE, Fed could have given $56k to every household in America The Fed acknowledged Wednesday that, as the economic recovery slowly builds, its grand experiment is now coming to an end.”

    We’ll see, they said the same exact thing years ago and it never happenned.

    maybe a mimimum basic income?

    Basic income: the world’s simplest plan to end poverty, explained
    http://www.vox.com/2014/9/8/6003359/basic-income-negative-income-tax-questions-explain

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    pfft says:

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 30:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 29 – I don’t see how that is responsive to the point. The point is that by having a weak President that the Iranians are mocking, it is more likely that we’ll see Iranian troops in Iraq. The choice is not ours on whether that occurs.

    But I will again point out that Obama’s decision to not leave any troops in Iraq has made this mess more likely and more difficult.

    because things we so well when we had troops there right? if our troops are there we yet again do their work for them. Iraq and it’s allies need to get it’s crap together as the president pointed out.

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    pfft says:

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 32:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 31 – Obama sometimes claims that Iraq wouldn’t let us stay. That just shows how weak Obama is, and how poor of a negotiator he is.

    they didn’t want us there. imagine that? countries don’t like to be occupied like bush said. it also looks like Maliki wanted to consolidate power.

    btw is you read accounts from Iraqis they say nothing about Obama being the reason why the country is in turmoil. it was all about Maliki persecuting the Sunnis. nothing about Obama.

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    By pfft @ 36:

    btw is you read accounts from Iraqis they say nothing about Obama being the reason why the country is in turmoil. it was all about Maliki persecuting the Sunnis. nothing about Obama.

    That’s the reason for the political discord. I’m talking about the terrorist army occupying the country. It is somewhat related in that the political discord undoubtedly affects the Iraqi army, which is another reason having our troops there would have helped.

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    Blake says:

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 30:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 29
    But I will again point out that Obama’s decision to not leave any troops in Iraq has made this mess more likely and more difficult.
    .

    Obama reneged on his campaign promises to remove troops from Iraq as early as 2009 or 2010, eventually agreeing to the original Bush-signed agreement with the Iraqi government for the end of 2011. Even then Obama continually pushed to renew the status of forces agreement to keep troops in Iraq longer than the end of 2011! The Iraqi government refused to renew the SOFA, so Obama had to abide by the Bush agreed Dec 31, 2011 deadline.

    Kary: Do you think that Obama should have ignored the Iraqi government and kept US troops in Iraq w/o an SOFA? Thus US troops would be subject to Iraqi law and being under arrest and put on trial?? Do you think that any US President would leave US troops in such a situation?

    Do you seriously think that the presence of US troops in Iraq after the Iraqis asked us to leave would not have helped ISIS recruit and rally jihadis?? And do you think that US troops (mainly air power) in Iraq would have been effective against a widely dispersed, guerrilla force such as ISIS?

    And you wrote: ‘… it is more likely that we’ll see Iranian troops in Iraq. The choice is not ours on whether that occurs.”

    Why should it be “our” choice? Can you even concieve that the Iranians might indeed have legitimate, vital national security interests in trying to prevent an ultraviolent, psychotic, anti-Shiite movement from taking over Iraq!? God Americans are such blinkered idiots!!! … why can we not understand that other nations, like Iran and Russia, which have suffered millions of losses from foreign invasions which the US has NEVER experienced, might act to try to prevent their nations from being invaded again!?!?

    The America disease is to think that only we have legitimate national security concerns while all other nations are expansionistic and out to “challenge our power!” THIS lies at the heart of our dliemma… we cannot rule the world and the more we try, the more we will exhaust our resources and create more enemies.

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    Here’s a link to today’s decision on a foreclosure case from the Washington Supreme Court. The facts are more interesting than the law. The bank didn’t show up a couple of times at a the mediation conferences and then foreclosed the property when they shouldn’t have and said they wouldn’t. They were the bidders at the sale, and hadn’t recorded the deed, so they easily reversed that action.

    http://www.courts.wa.gov/opinions/pdf/893438.pdf

    Anyway, banks still suck , still don’t know what they’re doing and still are not paying attention.

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    By Blake @ 39:

    Kary: Do you think that Obama should have ignored the Iraqi government and kept US troops in Iraq w/o an SOFA? Thus US troops would be subject to Iraqi law and being under arrest and put on trial?? Do you think that any US President would leave US troops in such a situation?

    No, but I think he could have negotiated terms. Has Obama successfully negotiated anything during his two terms? He is a very weak negotiator. As I have said before, he wouldn’t even make a good real estate agent.

    Do you seriously think that the presence of US troops in Iraq after the Iraqis asked us to leave would not have helped ISIS recruit and rally jihadis?? And do you think that US troops (mainly air power) in Iraq would have been effective against a widely dispersed, guerrilla force such as ISIS?

    You really think ISIS needs help recruiting? But as to the second question, I think drones and other air operations operated from inside Iraq could have stopped the ISIS advance, but my main point is that they would have been less likely to try. Do you think North Korea would have likely invaded South Korea sometime in the past 10 years if we had not been there?

    And you wrote: ‘… it is more likely that we’ll see Iranian troops in Iraq. The choice is not ours on whether that occurs.”

    Why should it be “our” choice?

    I didn’t say it should be our choice. My point was that yet another area where having a weak US President might mean having Iranian troops in Iraq. I can see where that would be in their interest, but it’s not in our interest, and they don’t care about us. They mock Obama. That’s my point.

    The America disease is to think that only we have legitimate national security concerns while all other nations are expansionistic and out to “challenge our power!” THIS lies at the heart of our dliemma… we cannot rule the world and the more we try, the more we will exhaust our resources and create more enemies.

    I’m taking a more neutral position. My point is that by appearing powerful you can avoid conflict. By appearing weak, like Obama, you invite conflict. Switching topics, I think Putin has been a bit withdrawn in Ukraine because of EU and even NATO actions, not because of what Obama has said/done. Putin rightly views Obama as weak and is probably more likely to want to take over Ukraine just to bother Obama.

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    Blake says:

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 41
    You wrote: “Putin rightly views Obama as weak and is probably more likely to want to take over Ukraine just to bother Obama.”

    That’s the American disease Kary… you think that what Putin is doing on his southern border is all about US!? Insane… old cold war, zero sum thinking… The braying corporate media and all the “brave” armchair generals in DC and New York can’t get enough war!

    This is how and why Empires crumble.

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    RE: Blake @ 42 – Not all about the US. I said Putin was “more likely” to do something just to bother Obama. That in adding up the positives and negatives of taking over Ukraine, that would be a positive for Putin. So he wouldn’t do that just to bother Obama, but in the scheme of things having Obama as President makes him more likely to do so.

    I think that’s probably why Putin jumped in on the Syria chemical weapons. Obama might have even been the tipping point in that decision, and if so, it’s one instance where having a weak President did some good.

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    pfft says:

    By Blake @ 42:

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 41
    You wrote: “Putin rightly views Obama as weak and is probably more likely to want to take over Ukraine just to bother Obama.”

    That’s the American disease Kary… you think that what Putin is doing on his southern border is all about US!?

    let’s remember that Putin is probably mad we are supporting Ukraine and also messing with old Soviet client states like Syria and Libya.

    Putin didn’t have any grand plan for Ukraine. The pro-Russian leader of Ukraine was not popular and a popular protest movement drove him from office. Ukraine was moving more towards the west hence Putin acted. His actions really don’t have anything to do with the US he was reacting to events. He liked Ukraine when it was pro-russia.

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    pfft says:

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 43:

    RE: Blake @ 42 – Not all about the US. I said Putin was “more likely” to do something just to bother Obama. That in adding up the positives and negatives of taking over Ukraine, that would be a positive for Putin. So he wouldn’t do that just to bother Obama, but in the scheme of things having Obama as President makes him more likely to do so.

    I think that’s probably why Putin jumped in on the Syria chemical weapons. Obama might have even been the tipping point in that decision, and if so, it’s one instance where having a weak President did some good.

    Kary just wondering, who was our last “strong” president? was it Bush? Putin invaded Georgia while Bush was president. I remember Bush/Cheney saying invading Iraq would show our strength and reshape the mideast. how’d that go?

    Although I think we should have intervened in Syria how can you say that Obama’s weakness and Putin lead to Syria turning over it’s chemical weapons? you say I have a bad memory? I remember that Obama was about to intervene in Syria even though it wasn’t popular with the public and might not have been approved by Congress. John Kerry was asked by Margaret Brennan(old CNBCer) what Assad could do to stave off action and Kerry said he could turn over his WMD. Putin arranged it. That’s a big win for the Obama administration. He did better than Bush. Remember that “weak” Obama was possibly going to do airstrikes and this most likely pushed Assad to back down. I think Obama was wrong not to intervene as hundreds of thousands of people have died since but I wouldn’t call him weak. The public wasn’t there. Congress was probably not there.

    Kerry suggests a way for Syria to avoid U.S. strikes
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvSZTiAZ3NY

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    RE: pfft @ 45 – Not Bush, clearly not Clinton.

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    pfft says:

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 46:

    RE: pfft @ 45clearly not Clinton.

    I won ‘t even ask.

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    RE: pfft @ 47 – Clinton’s response to things was to send in a cruise missile. Listen to what the President of Iran was saying about that sort of thing to see the type of respect it gets. Then consider the fact that the planning for 9/11 started while Clinton was in office. I suspect OBL was a bit surprised at the US response to 9/11, because he was used to the weakness of Clinton.

    But compared to Obama, Clinton looks like Superman.

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    pfft says:

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 48:

    RE: pfft @ 47 – Clinton’s response to things was to send in a cruise missile.

    and the republican response was to say he was distracting the nation from his impeachment? as we all know cruise missiles are harmless!

    Clinton did more against AQ than Bush did. Clinton told Bush about AQ and Bush basically ignored the administration.

    “I suspect OBL was a bit surprised at the US response to 9/11, because he was used to the weakness of Clinton.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia

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    pfft says:

    Should we start rethinking real estate?

    Within 10 years, every SolarCity system will come with batteries from Tesla’s Gigafactory
    http://www.treehugger.com/renewable-energy/within-10-years-every-solarcity-system-will-come-battery-storage-teslas-gigafactory.html

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    RE: pfft @ 49 – You seem to think that Yugoslavia was a terrorist situation, and that I’m a fan of Bush. Connecting the two up, Yugoslavia is what Bush should have done in Iraq–three countries. That’s another way we probably wouldn’t have the same issues in Iraq today, but that is Bush’s fault.

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    redmondjp says:

    By pfft @ 50:

    Should we start rethinking real estate?

    Within 10 years, every SolarCity system will come with batteries from Tesla’s Gigafactory
    http://www.treehugger.com/renewable-energy/within-10-years-every-solarcity-system-will-come-battery-storage-teslas-gigafactory.html

    Nothing more than a “forward-looking statement.”

    And the author conveniently omits the many reasons why the costs of solar have dropped (and the fact that this is not sustainable in the long run). Trashing the environment (and workers’ health) in a third-world country so we can claim we are saving it here in our country is duplicity in its purest form.

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    RE: redmondjp @ 52 – Solar is ultra-efficient. Energy and cooked birds at the same time!

    http://www.weather.com/news/solar-plants-birds-20140818

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    Politicians are trying to create a new bubble. Let’s pretend a credit score is higher than it is, by hiding bad information.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/realestate/house-panel-considers-ways-to-boost-credit-scores-but-complications-come-to-light/2014/09/17/97ac4106-3d0b-11e4-b0ea-8141703bbf6f_story.html

    And oh the shock, that including utility information might actually make some peoples’ credit scores go down!

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    redmondjp says:

    Sufferin’ succatash! After months of blistering publicity, law enforcement finally decides to do something about the squatters not-so-secretly sequestered securely in the squalid, square, squirrel-infested squire in Squaller Lake:

    http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Squatters-evicted-following-months-long-battle-275636241.html

    p.s. bonus points if you can add more ‘sq’ words to the above sentence!

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    redmondjp says:

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 54:

    Politicians are trying to create a new bubble.

    Create a new one? What are you talking about? They are desparately trying to keep enough air in the one we already have!

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    wreckingbull says:

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 54 – Of course Maxine Waters is involved with this scheme.

    She wants to socialize our oil companies too. I am no fan of big oil, but take a look at Venezuela’s plummeting oil production to see how that would end.

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    pfft says:

    By redmondjp @ 52:

    By pfft @ 50:

    Should we start rethinking real estate?

    Within 10 years, every SolarCity system will come with batteries from Tesla’s Gigafactory
    http://www.treehugger.com/renewable-energy/within-10-years-every-solarcity-system-will-come-battery-storage-teslas-gigafactory.html

    Nothing more than a “forward-looking statement.”

    And the author conveniently omits the many reasons why the costs of solar have dropped (and the fact that this is not sustainable in the long run). Trashing the environment (and workers’ health) in a third-world country so we can claim we are saving it here in our country is duplicity in its purest form.

    solar panels aren’t only made in China thank you very much.

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    pfft says:

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 51:

    RE: pfft @ 49 – You seem to think that Yugoslavia was a terrorist situation, and that I’m a fan of Bush. Connecting the two up, Yugoslavia is what Bush should have done in Iraq–three countries.

    he never should have gone there in the first place.

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    pfft says:

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 53:

    RE: redmondjp @ 52 – Solar is ultra-efficient. Energy and cooked birds at the same time!

    http://www.weather.com/news/solar-plants-birds-20140818

    not what we are talking about.

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    Blurtman says:

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 54 – Banks committed securities fraud, money laundering, forgery and perjury (robosigning). Their credit ratings are worse than the folks they lend to, but yet they borrow at a lower cost and mark up the loan to their better credit rating borrowers. The whole system is a fraud designed to reward the 1% and to punish the 99%. Tishman Speyer and Blackrock defaulted on a multibillion dollar loan, and missed a $16 million payment before defaulting. They are still borrowing money. I think you are barking up the wrong tree when you complain about proposals to loosen the leash on the serfs. What is needed is to guillotine those holding the leash.

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    By pfft @ 60:

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 53:

    RE: redmondjp @ 52 – Solar is ultra-efficient. Energy and cooked birds at the same time!

    http://www.weather.com/news/solar-plants-birds-20140818

    not what we are talking about.

    Are you really that dense? I suspect you are, so I will make this explicit: No need to answer that question.

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    From cell phone poll

    RE: David B. @ 22 –

    iPhones have a switch on the side that mutes them. One switch. Muted.

    The GPS in most phones still works without cellular/wifi coverage – it is just more accurate/quicker to find a fix if it has other coverage.

    http://adventurealan.com/iphone4gps.htm

    I’m limited out in that thread, but David’s post left a lot to be desired.

    Just about any GPS app can be silenced without silencing everything else. I almost never have my GPS app talking to me because they talk too much. So you don’t have to mute everything, which was his concern.

    And yes, they all still work without cell phone coverage, but some might need to download maps for the precise area, although with some that do you can download those in advance. I recently did that for Yellowstone. What you might not be able to do is start routing without an Internet connection, but that’s likely not an issue walking on a trail. But it can be a huge issue if you have a second rate carrier like Sprint or T-Mobile. Getting back to the point though, I would think if you wanted GPS for a trail, that you would want a specialized device that was designed for trail use. I’m not sure any of the apps have trail information (but I’m also not sure they all don’t).

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    pfft says:

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 62:

    By pfft @ 60:

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 53:

    RE: redmondjp @ 52 – Solar is ultra-efficient. Energy and cooked birds at the same time!

    http://www.weather.com/news/solar-plants-birds-20140818

    not what we are talking about.

    Are you really that dense? I suspect you are, so I will make this explicit: No need to answer that question.

    still not what we are talking about. falling prices of solar panels are making the type solar you are talking about less viable.

  65. 65
    pfft says:

    update on why the fed is so slow to raise rates.

    The current gap between actual and potential gross domestic product (what GDP would be absent all this slack) amounts to more than $700 billion, about $2,400 per capita.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/09/19/american-elites-have-completely-failed-to-understand-what-the-fed-should-be-doing-right-now/

  66. 66
    Mr.Chang says:

    In Suburban Seattle, New Nests for China’s Rich
    “…Seattle real estate agents have even added a new term of art to their deal language: “the feng shui contingency…”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/21/business/in-suburban-seattle-new-nests-for-chinas-rich.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_riot_of_1886

  67. 67

    RE: pfft @ 64 – Okay, you are that dense.

    Post 52 was talking about solar ruining the environment in third world countries. I was pointing out that it harms the environment here too, by killing birds. I could have also cited to the electric windmills killing birds, although to be fair large electric transmission lines kill birds in the same way. An early form of green energy was dams, and we’re now removing some of them because of their impact on the environment.

    People like to ignore the downsides of some of the forms of green technology. They almost all have downsides. Some such as ethanol have so many downsides that any positive effect is likely illusory.

  68. 68

    RE: Mr.Chang @ 66 – I have seen buyers refer to feng shui, and give their own opinions, but have never seen a formal contingency. That might create a legal quandary for the agent involved. An agent cannot just let anyone into a house to do an inspection. So, for example, I cannot let a buyer’s father into a house to do an inspection, unless they happen to be a licensed inspector. The buyer, however, can do their own inspection. As far as I know, the state has yet to license feng shui inspectors!

  69. 69
  70. 70
    pfft says:

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 67:

    RE: pfft @ 64 – Okay, you are that dense.

    Post 52 was talking about solar ruining the environment in third world countries. I was pointing out that it harms the environment here too, by killing birds. I could have also cited to the electric windmills killing birds, although to be fair large electric transmission lines kill birds in the same way. An early form of green energy was dams, and we’re now removing some of them because of their impact on the environment.

    People like to ignore the downsides of some of the forms of green technology. They almost all have downsides. Some such as ethanol have so many downsides that any positive effect is likely illusory.

    kary you just don’t get it. we weren’t talking about the type of solar you were. just move on.

    “I could have also cited to the electric windmills killing birds”

    everything has it’s problems. windmills will kill less birds than other dirty energy resources. tar sands had(or did have) problems with birds landing in their toxic ponds. warmer temps from dirty fossil fuels kills more birds overall than windmills do. windmills also have things they can do to lessen the number of birds killed.

  71. 71

    RE: pfft @ 70 – No, you just don’t get it. You’re as dense as a rock. My comment was related to the comment in the manner I described.

    No wonder you can’t remember squat. You also can’t understand squat, and understanding is a prerequisite to remembering. On the bright side that means your memory problem isn’t a serious medical issue.

  72. 72
    Blurtman says:

    OK, The Seahawks were lucky to win what was a sloppily played game. Wilson INT, safety, questionable punt return decisions, and inability to stop the one minute drive, granted against arguably the best QB to play the game. And yes, Denver is a better team than last year.

    Frankly, I am beyond nauseated by the deification of the players, and the incessant ads featuring these highly specialized entertainers. I am really not going to buy insurance or any product because a pseudo role model entertainer is paid to endorse it. Richard Sherman curing cancer! Jumping Jimminy! Basta!

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