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Weekly Twitter Digest (Link Roundup) for 2009-11-07

By The Tim on November 7th, 2009 at 5:00 AM · 3 Comments

  • Seattle has its very own foreclosure tour. http://is.gd/4JmKk #
  • The only people who believe NAR's "pending sales" measure has any relation to reality are the willfully ignorant. http://is.gd/4LeQO #
  • Seattle City Council unanimously approves "backyard cottages" http://is.gd/4LDaT #
  • Wow, weird. RT @mattgoyer: New blog post: Moda Repossessed? http://bit.ly/24T0rB #
  • Apparently Seattle Bubble placed 16th out of the "top 75 Seattle Media Websites" for 2009. http://is.gd/4Mi1C HT @moniguzman #
  • Seattle Times:Seattle overwhelmingly passes affordable-housing levy – http://is.gd/4N6PB #
  • Microsoft cuts 800 more jobs, moving beyond the 5,000 announced in Jan. http://is.gd/4N9DW #
  • CBIC, a Seattle-based insurer of contractors, making big cutbacks with a combination of layoffs, pay cuts, and schedule cuts. #
  • Seattle Bubble's 0×10000th comment! http://tinyurl.com/ye8rdj2 #
  • King5: Neighbors left with dirty work in foreclosed homes http://is.gd/4Nwh4 #
  • RT @mattgoyer: Redfin Delivers Near-Real-Time Sales Records for 1.4 Million Homes, Integrates Social Media: http://bit.ly/40wLbm #
  • Seattle Weekly: Condo Demand? Not So Great. But the Homeless Are a Booming Market http://is.gd/4O1eM #
  • $45 billion more in deficit spending. $33b homebuilder tax break, $10b homebuyer tax credit, $2.4b unemployment. WTH. http://is.gd/4O9wa #
  • All the cool details about Redfin's sweet upgrade that shows full info on recently-sold properties: http://is.gd/4Oae4 #
  • NWMLS October data post updated with charts: http://is.gd/4OnOH #
  • U-6 Unemployment at 17.5%. As in nearly 1 in every 5 workers in the USA are unemployed or underemployed. Yikes. #
  • RT @mikesimonsen: How Washington is encouraging big risk on high LTV jumbos. From the @AltosResearch blog. http://bit.ly/4zaDQg #

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October Reporting Roundup: Happy Fun Tax Credit Party Time!

By The Tim on November 6th, 2009 at 8:00 AM · 54 Comments

Time for the monthly reporting roundup, where I read all the local paper rehashes of the NWMLS press release so you don’t have to.

Here’s a link to this month’s NWMLS press release: Tax credit spurs big surge in Western Washington home sales

Before we get into the roundup, I’d like to take a moment to quote an excerpt from the monthly NWMLS data post from May, which was titled Huge Gap Opening Between Pending and Closed Sales (a subject that I first brought to your attention in August of last year).

The disconnect between pending sales and closed sales grows ever larger. … Something is becoming extremely fishy about the pending sales data.

…it is good to keep in mind when you start reading news reports in the coming weeks about the market supposedly picking back up. It’s an illusion.

Here’s a graphical representation of the 2009 sales illusion:

2009 Pending and Closed King Co. SFH Sales

Pending sales peaked at 2,447 in June, while so far closed sales have not made it higher than 1,758—a nearly 30% discrepancy. So far this year there have been at total of 20,025 pending SFH sales in King County, but only 12,986 actual closed sales. In other words, more than a third (35%) of pending sales have yet to materialize into closed sales. That difference is typically well under 10%.

Find me a newspaper that reported this growing issue last August.

Click below for this month’s roundup of gawking at the tax credit.

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Weekend Open Thread (2009-11-06)

By The Tim on November 6th, 2009 at 12:00 AM · 42 Comments

Here is your open thread for the weekend beginning Friday November 6th, 2009. You may post random links and off-topic discussions here. Also, if you have an idea or a topic you’d like to see covered in an article, please make it known.

Be sure to also check out the forums, and get your word in the user-driven discussions there!

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NWMLS: Fake Expiration of Wasteful Tax Credit Boosts October Sales

By The Tim on November 5th, 2009 at 12:32 PM · 66 Comments

Let’s have a look at October market statistics from the NWMLS. Here’s the NWMLS press release: Tax credit spurs big surge in Western Washington home sales.

Here’s your King County SFH summary, with the arrows to show whether the year-over-year direction of each indicator is positive or negative news for buyers and sellers:

October 2009 Number MOM YOY Buyers Sellers
Active Listings 8,869 -5.2% -19.7%
Closed Sales 1,758 +8.7% +33.3%
SAAS (?) 1.61 -11.4% -27.9%
Pending Sales 2,295 +0.3% +72.9%
Months of Supply 3.86 -5.5% -53.6%
Median Price* $377,500 -1.2% -3.7%

In a great big surprise to absolutely nobody, closed sales bumped up in a seasonally unnatural pattern in October, no doubt due to the belief many buyers had that the $8,000 tax credit would be expiring at the end of November (it is now foolishly being renewed and extended, pushed through Congress on the back of an unrelated extension of unemployment benefits).

At this point it still looks unlikely that closed sales will manage to break through the 2,000 mark this year. In the past, closed sales have fallen an average of 15% from October to November. I suspect that this year we may see sales hold steady or possibly even post a slight increase, but a 14% increase would be surprising, especially with the tax credit now having been extended.

Here’s how the closed sales situation is shaping up compared to previous years:

King County SFH Closed Sales

Thanks to an apparent abundance of eager homebuyers that aren’t very good at math, closed sales made a clear break from the trend seen every other year since 2000, ticking up from September to October. I expect a similar market distortion to appear next month as well.

Feel free to download the updated Seattle Bubble Spreadsheet, and here’s a copy in Excel 2003 format. Click below for the rest of the usual monthly graphs.

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Seattle Bubble Commenters: Thank You!

By The Tim on November 5th, 2009 at 6:00 AM · 69 Comments

Seattle Bubble hit a geeky milestone yesterday, with the posting of its 0×10000th comment! That’s hexadecimal—base 16—65,536 for you non-geeks out there. The 0×10000th comment was posted by Flying Ape.

In commemoration of this geeky occasion, here are a few statistics relating to the comments on Seattle Bubble.

As of the 0×10000th comment, 65,536 comments had been posted across a total of 1,852 posts, for an average of 35 comments per post. Seattle Bubble was launched on August 5, 2005, so that’s an average of 42 comments per day.

Stupid spam robots have attempted (and failed) to post 89,069 (0×15BED) spam comments, outnumbering comments by real people 1.4 to 1. And that’s just since Seattle Bubble’s move to its own domain in May 2007, meaning that the spambots (failed to) post an average of 99 comments per day. Yikes!

Top 10 most-commented posts:

  1. 2008.06 – May Reporting Roundup (330 comments)
  2. 2009.06 – May Foreclosures Up 69% from 2008 in King County (295 comments)
  3. 2008.08 – House Valuation Workshop (232 comments)
  4. 2009.01 – Official Word on Microsoft Layoffs: 1,400 Now, 5,000 Total (218 comments)
  5. 2009.07 – Are Home Price Drops Around Seattle Mostly Over? (218 comments)
  6. 2008.07 – June Reporting Roundup (206 comments)
  7. 2009.08 – Comment of the Week: Impulsive Behavior Disorder (198 comments)
  8. 2008.01 – Predictions: 2007 Revisited, 2008 Prognosticated (186 comments)
  9. 2008.09 – Breaking: House Votes Down $700B Bailout (179 comments)
  10. 2009.07 – NWMLS: Sales Edge Above ‘08, Median Up 5% MOM, Down 12% YOY (177 comments)

Top 10 12 most prolific commenters:

  1. Kary L. Krismer (2,548 comments)
  2. The Tim (2,085 comments)
  3. david losh (1,596 comments)
  4. deejayoh (1,504 comments)
  5. Scotsman (1,472 comments)
  6. patient (1,190 comments)
  7. Eleua (1,177 comments)
  8. softwarengineer (1,150 comments)
  9. meshugy (929 comments)
  10. Matthew (925 comments)
  11. Ray Pepper (869 comments)
  12. Jon (782 comments)

[Update: There was a glitch in the auto-generated top ten that caused some commenters' count to be split. I have updated the list to correct for this error.]

Technically, “Anonymous” was #1 with 2,651 comments (a throwback to Seattle Bubble’s old days at Blogger.com), but since that’s not really a single person, it doesn’t count. What’s really impressive about Kary’s spot at #1 is that he only just started commenting on Seattle Bubble in July of last year, so in less than 16 months he has managed to rack up nearly twice as many comments as the next-closest competitor (not counting myself), averaging 5.4 comments per day.

And let’s not leave out the forum!

Top 10 forum posters:

  1. rose-colored-coolaid (1,976 posts)
  2. deejayoh (1,154 posts)
  3. TJ_98370 (837 posts)
  4. The Tim (790 posts)
  5. Alan (780 posts)
  6. Robroy (681 posts)
  7. sniglet (679 posts)
  8. Markor (602 posts)
  9. biliruben (573 posts)
  10. WestSideBilly (550 posts)

A giant THANK YOU goes out to everyone that participates in the discussion here at Seattle Bubble. I have learned a lot from you, and I think on the whole we have made a positive contribution to the understanding and demystifying of real estate and related economic issues in the Seattle area. I hope that we can continue the conversation for many 0×1000s of comments to come. ;^)

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Job Loss Crash Comparison Update / Stimulus Rant

By The Tim on November 4th, 2009 at 8:23 AM · 110 Comments

A reader wrote in requesting an update to this February post, in which I criticized Nancy Pelosi’s misleading chart of job losses.

Here’s an update to the post-WWII job loss chart, courtesy of Calculated Risk, in which I’ve added a mark so you can see where the “stimulus” was passed.

Percent Job Losses in Post-WWII Recessions

Wow, good thing we changed direction to the tune of $787 billion*, huh?

*(Actual cost: much, much more)

If there is any doubt about who the stimulus was really directed at saving, just take a look at an update to the stock market crash comparison:

Dow Jones Crashes: 1929, 1973, 1987, 2001, & 2007

Woo, go Wall Street!

Finally, speaking of bailouts for Wall Street and the banks: Congress Poised to Keep Homebuyers’ Tax Credit

The Senate and House are poised to agree on a compromise measure to extend unemployment benefits that also would expand a popular $8,000 tax credit for homebuyers, despite a recent government report on extensive mistakes and suspected fraud in the program.

The Senate might pass its version as early as Wednesday, and aides to Congressional leaders say the House could accept it this week, sending the bill to President Obama to sign into law. After weeks of partisan delay in the Senate, Democrats are eager to show progress before Friday, when the October jobless report is again expected to show high unemployment.

Super! So while people continue to lose their jobs, and absolutely zero of the underlying problems in the economy have been fixed, let’s pour another ten or twenty billion dollars into the housing market to try to keep prices propped up (i.e. – keep homes as unaffordable as possible) a little longer so our buddies in the big banks that got us into this mess can avoid taking losses.

Sounds like a plan to me!

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