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Can the NWMLS Control Online Conversations About Listings?

By The Tim on October 2nd, 2009 at 6:00 AM · 62 Comments

I linked this up last week on the Twitter account, but the story has been getting enough chit chat online in the last few days that I figure it deserves its own post here.

In news first broken by local REALTOR® Marlow Harris, the NWMLS will apparently be adding two new ways to fine their members via a pair of new fields on the listing input sheets. In essence, new checkboxes have been added to the listing sheet: “buzz off Zillow” and “beat it bloggers.”

What this means is that sellers are now given the option of whether or not Zillow estimates will be allowed to appear on their listings that are posted on NWMLS member sites, and also the option of whether or not NWMLS members are permitted to blog about their listing. For the full official description of the two new listing parameters hit Marlow’s September 25th post for an excerpt from the NWMLS bulletin.

Median Sale Price / sq. ft.

Obviously the point of the first one is obvious. Giving the potential seller an option to prevent Zillow and other “automatic valuation model” price estimates from appearing next to their listing is no doubt something that some sellers and agents have wished for for some time. Despite the fact that Zillow is a completely automated system based on sometimes incorrect inputs, and the company openly admits that their estimates should not be treated as a gold standard, some sellers and seller’s agents have convinced themselves that if a Zillow estimate displayed on the same page as their listing is lower than their asking price, it’s Zillow’s fault if nobody wants to buy their house.

The second option is actually opening up their rules just slightly, as they previously had a blanket prohibition on NWMLS member agents blogging about any listings that were not your own. That’s what the $50,000 fine slapped on Redfin in 2007 was all about. With this new checkbox, sellers will now be able to “opt-in” to blogging.

Not surprisingly, the anti-Zillow move has stirred up some in the industry, especially among those that have had it in for Zillow since day one. Since Zillow is not a member of the NWMLS themselves, insiders there insist that the new rule will have little effect on their business. I have pointed this out when people have asked in the past, but this is a prime example of why I have no interest in Seattle Bubble becoming a member of the NWMLS, even though it would gain me direct access to their database for some prime number-crunching.

In an amusing twist on the whole thing, Marlow followed up her post on these new rules with another angle on the subject yesterday: Can new technology make some MLS rules unenforceable?

It could be that technology will trump all of these new NWMLS rules, and blogging/comments/AVM restrictions will become ineffective and impossible to enforce with the new Google Toolbar application called Sidewiki.

…anyone who installs the Sidewiki will be able to add comments to your real estate webpage, including individual property pages that you may have created to help market your properties.

There is no “opt-out” tab, no way to eliminate the sidebar comments, no way to edit out objectionable material, porn, spam links, comments on the personal character of the sellers or the agent or the home or the neighborhood.

It seems to me that the NWMLS rules are set up to attempt to restrict and stifle as much conversation about listings as possible in a misguided attempt to give the seller absolute control over how their home is “marketed.” Unfortunately for the NWMLS, fancy technology or not, people are free to talk about home listings in real life in whatever way they choose.

If I wanted to start a weekly tour of the most overpriced homes in Seattle, where we drive around town and gather outside homes for sale through the NWMLS and mock the granite countertops and other such faux-luxury “upgrades,” the NWMLS can’t stop me. And once you move the conversation online, it becomes even less possible to control it.

If I wanted to start a website that provided a searchable map of every house for sale on the market, linked to open forum threads on every house where people could say whatever they want about the agent or the home or the neighborhood—again, the NWMLS couldn’t do a thing about it.

The NWMLS can certainly exert control over their members by levying ridiculously large fines for seemingly innocuous conversations, but in my opinion, the more they attempt to stifle and restrict the free flow of information and ideas relating to their precious listings, the more they will encourage another, more open competitor to step up and make their entire system obsolete.

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Localism: Still a Wasteland | KOMO: We Want Some of that Action

By The Tim on August 20th, 2009 at 8:10 AM · 19 Comments

A little over a year ago ActiveRain (basically a social network for real estate professionals) launched
Localism, an attempt at leveraging their nationwide network of real estate salespeople to generate content for thousands of “hyperlocal” city and neighborhood portals, presumably in order to create an attractive platform on which small businesses would spend their advertising dollars. Our review of Localism’s Seattle-area offerings concluded that the site amounted to little more than sales pitches from “hyperlocal” agents.

Checking in on Localism a year later reveals that not much has changed. The four local pages we reviewed are nearly as empty as they were, with none of the so-called “hyperlocal” blogs even managing to average more than about two posts per month. The contributors are all still all real estate salespeople, and the registration page still says “we’re not taking new accounts right now.”

With the rousing success of Localism in their first year, it’s no wonder that other corporations would be dying to jump onto the “let’s create a bunch of ‘hyperlocal’ blogs on templates” bandwagon—wait, what? No, that doesn’t make any sense. And yet, that’s exactly what KOMO News decided to do this week, launching their very own “community” pages.

KOMO’s new pages are definitely a few steps above the bland failure that is Localism. From day one they are allowing and encouraging people to register and contribute. The layout is more inviting and looks like it has more going on. Plus, at least as at the corporate level KOMO is local to the “hyperlocal” markets they are attempting to attract.

I do notice that advertising takes up quite a bit of “above the fold” space, and their right sidebar has a dedicated section for “Local Real Estate Agents,” so it is fairly obvious what KOMO’s motivation is here. I certainly don’t begrudge them the chance to try to make money, but I still don’t see what they’re offering that local blogs are not.

Just like Localism, many of the communities with shiny new KOMO pages already have popular, well-established blogs, run by dedicated locals. KOMO says they’re not attempting to compete with these sites, but in reality I doubt there are really two separate markets in the neighborhood blogging scene—one for authentic, community-driven blogs, and another for template-ized, corporate profit vehicles.

[Update: See an (official?) response from KOMO below, describing their perspective.]

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Cool New Features on Redfin

By The Tim on November 6th, 2008 at 9:43 AM · 28 Comments

For those of you that have been waiting for Redfin to add the NWMLS Cumulative Days on Market to the information displayed on listings, your wait is over.

Redfin unveiled a bunch of new features today. Here’s a list of what I’ve noticed so far:

Redfin

  • Cumulative Days on Market displayed
  • property type now broken down into:
    • House
    • Condo
    • Townhouse
    • Multi-family
    • Land
    • Other
  • search filters added for parking
  • filter out short sales from results
  • include schools on results map

Nice. Redfin is definitely doing an amazing job of constantly improving their web property search experience. Has anybody noticed any other improvements?

[Update: Also definitely worth noting—Google finally added Street View for Seattle, and Redfin is right on top of it, with integrated Street View on the page of each individual listing. Sweet.]

In somewhat related news, as some readers have already noticed, Redfin’s eight market blogs have a new analytical focus, and a new contributor: yours truly. To start I’ll be posting once a week over on the “Sweet Digs” blogs, chart-ifying and commenting on all new sets of data provided exclusively through Redfin for all eight of their service areas across the country.

Swing on by and let us know what you think. It’s not intended to be a replacement or competition to the material provided here on Seattle Bubble, but more of a complimentary resource.

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Localism – Hyper Local Real Estate Sales Pitches

By The Tim on July 9th, 2008 at 8:25 AM · 26 Comments

ActiveRain, a site that describes itself as “a free online community for real estate professionals designed to help them promote and grow their business,” has launched a new site called Localism. Localism describes itself as the “world’s most complete neighborpedia,” and the front page invites users to “Go Hyper Local!”

It is the latest entrant into what seems to be an already over-served online market. For people that want so-called “hyper local” content, there are already a ton of choices out there including sites like Yelp, StreetAdvisor, and outside.in. Also, because it’s so trivially simple to set up a free blog, many neighborhoods have dedicated blogs that are just a simple Google search away.

John Cook put out a pair of stories about Localism today, one on the P-I and one on his P-I blog. Here’s a brief excerpt:

Of course, since real estate professionals are doing most of the writing there will also be a fair share of stories about buying and selling homes.

Initially, the site — segmented into various communities by state, county, city and neighborhood — will be authored by some of the 90,000 real estate professionals on ActiveRain. But over time, ActiveRain founder Jonathan Washburn said it plans to open the platform to everyone. He also envisions people creating new online communities around schools, subdivisions or churches.

Since John Cook covered the basics of Localism’s press release in his stories, I thought I’d take a different approach. Let’s compare Localism to what I think is their toughest competition: local blogs. For this contest, I picked three (update: four) Seattle-area neighborhoods: two three are currently served by local blogs, and one is not. Let’s see how Localism compares…

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Seattle Gets Another New Real Estate Blog

By The Tim on April 12th, 2008 at 9:33 PM · 15 Comments

Apparently Elizabeth Rhodes’ Home Forum Extra blog wasn’t capable of single-handedly satiating the real-estate-hungry readership of the Seattle Times. So, they’re introducing a new real estate blog by Real Estate Editor Cindy Zetts.

Lots of people are avidly interested in real estate — buyers and sellers, owners and wannabes, investors and market voyeurs. But it’s tough to make sense of it all.

That’s where my blog, The Real Estate Deal, comes in. I’ll decipher real-estate issues and post news, tips and nifty tidbits from around Puget Sound. And I want to hear from you. What are you seeing in your neighborhood? What are you curious about? What doesn’t make sense to you?

Take this weird real-estate market we have now. Why, for example, are prices rising in the Seattle area while sales are plummeting?

She’s not exactly getting off on the best foot by claiming that “prices are rising in the Seattle area,” when that clearly is not the case right now.

She also seems to be saying that the point of her blog will be primarily to give advice for sellers so they can get as much for their homes as possible and ride out this difficult market.

I often hear, “My house is worth more than that.” Actually, it’s worth what someone will pay for it; and if no one will pay what you want, then your asking price is too high. No amount of emotional attachment (yours) to the place is going to change that.

Potential buyers can afford to be finicky these days. There are thousands of home for sale right now, and even those who love a house can fall just as quickly for another with a lower price tag.

This leaves you three choices: Lower the price; wait months for the perfect buyer; or take the home off the market.

Here are a few tips to help you avoid our mistakes and get the most for your house…

Welcome to the local real estate blogging scene, Cindy. Here’s the link to her new blog, The Real Estate Deal. I’ve added it to our Blogroll, as well.

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Seattle Bubble Withdraws from Blog Contest

By The Tim on February 29th, 2008 at 2:15 PM · 25 Comments

This is just a quick note to let everyone know that I am withdrawing Seattle Bubble from the “Blarch Badness” blog tournament. If you would like to read a more detailed statement, click below.

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