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NPR: Searching for the "New Normal" in the NW Housing Market

By The Tim on August 19th, 2009 at 6:15 AM · 44 Comments

I did a phone interview a few weeks ago with Austin Jenkins, an NPR correspondent down in Olympia, about where the local housing market and economy are heading. Here is the resulting story: The New Normal: What Will The NW Housing Market Look Like?

The Northwest economy is on the verge of recovery and with it — transformation.

Economists expect the recession to end in the next year, but not without some long-term changes.

This week we’re looking at lasting alterations to the region’s economic landscape. Nowhere is that more apparent than in the real estate market.

That used to be the one investment middle income families in the Northwest could rely on. So what does the future hold for real estate?

Olympia Correspondent Austin Jenkins looks for answers in the first part of our series “The New Normal.”

Will we ever see home prices inflate at a double-digit pace year-over-year?

Real estate blogger Tim Ellis, for one, hopes the answer is no.

Tim Ellis: “To me it’s sad that so much of our local economy was based on people selling other people houses for twenty percent more than they sold last year.”

Ellis is the man behind the popular blog SeattleBubble.com . He hopes this recession serves as a course correction for the Northwest economy. He yearns for back-to-basics economic engines like Boeing airplanes and Microsoft software.

Tim Ellis: “As opposed to people whipping themselves into a frenzy over how they’re going to get rich on their house.”

Ellis need not worry about a return of the frenzy says Tom Potiowsky, economist for the state of Oregon.

Tom Potiowsky: “It just naturally is going to be a much slower growing market.”

Reset: How This Crisis Can Restore Our Values and Renew AmericaI like the forward-looking angle he took in this piece, but I don’t necessarily agree with Austin’s conclusion that “buying a home will still be a good investment.” Buy a home because you want a place to live to call your own, not as some sort of vehicle to build wealth. The only way a house is an investment is when you purchase a cash-flow-positive rental. But I digress.

I think Austin definitely touched on some interesting topics in his piece. In the time since I spoke with Austin, I picked up a little book called Reset: How This Crisis Can Restore Our Values and Renew America, which touches on some of the same topics, and as an added bonus turns the stars and stripes into a bar chart on the cover.

Despite it being only 70-some pages long, I haven’t made the time to sit down and finish reading Reset yet, but so far I’m appreciating the outlook presented within. It feels similar to the topic we touched on back in February when we discussed the “great reset.”

Looking toward the future with an optimistic perspective on how we can make our way back to a productive society that is not addicted to debt is a subject I hope to visit more frequently in the coming months.

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Boo-Hoo: Tighter Standards Help Kill Chances of Bubble Returning

By The Tim on June 25th, 2009 at 2:00 PM · 85 Comments

I’m starting to sense something of a theme in some recent news pieces about the housing market. Consider the following quotes from two recent articles (emphasis mine).

Reuters, June 22:

Two U.S. Democratic lawmakers want Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to relax recently tightened standards for mortgages on new condominiums, saying they could threaten the viability of some developments and slow the housing-market recovery, the Wall Street Journal said.

SeattlePI.com, June 25:

Are new appraisal rules holding back the nation’s real estate markets?

Lawrence Yun, chief economist for the National Association of Realtors, sure seems to think so.

“Lenders are using appraisers who may not be familiar with a neighborhood, or who compare traditional homes with distressed and discounted sales,” Yun said. “In the past month, stories of appraisal problems have been snowballing from across the country with many contracts falling through at the last moment. There is danger of a delayed housing market recovery and a further rise in foreclosures if the appraisal problems are not quickly corrected.”

What do you suppose folks like Laurence Yun mean when they use the phrase “housing market recovery”? Given the types of things they are objecting to, I’m inclined to conclude that what they really mean by “housing market recovery” is a return to the days of double-digit appreciation, frenzied buyers engaging in bidding wars and waiving inspections, and flippers snatching up pre-sales to turn a huge profit once construction completes.

Newsflash folks: It ain’t gonna happen.

You can cry all you want about the new tighter standards that are slowly but surely coming online in lending, appraisals, and other aspects of the home-buying process that were allowed to get wildly out of control during the bubble, but even without these new standards, we’re not likely to see a return of a real estate bubble in our lifetimes.

Too many people have been burned—and continue to be burned—by the rampant dangerous excesses of the housing bubble for things to just ramp right back up into an out-of-control mania again after just a few years of contraction.

Tighter regulation is just one of the necessary consequences of the housing bubble. Real estate professionals need to spend less time complaining and more time finding ways for their businesses to thrive within the framework of a housing market in which people buy reasonable homes, for a reasonable amount of money, as a place to live not a super-leveraged jackpot mega-investment.

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