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Home Prices Going Back Down in 2010?

By The Tim on November 20th, 2009 at 6:44 AM · 6 Comments

An interesting post on Calculated Risk this morning points out a few notable near-term home price predictions:

Housing consultant Ivy Zelman via the New York Times:

…home prices are going back down.

Moody’s chief economist Mark Zandi via Bloomberg:

I think we’re going to see another leg down.

And Goldman Sachs chief economist Jan Hatzius:

Our current working assumption is a 5%-10% drop in home prices through the middle of 2010.

Note that these forecasts are all nationwide. In most parts of the country home prices began falling a good year before Seattle, and had fallen further than Seattle before the inefficient, expensive, and economically stupid tax credit put the brakes on the full return to affordable housing.

If nationwide average home prices do indeed drop another 5-10% in the coming year, I suspect that Seattle area home prices will probably be down 10-15%.

Oh and by the way, in case you didn’t see the news; as expected, a couple weeks ago Congress passed an extension and expansion of the idiotic tax credit. The move was tacked onto a completely unrelated extension of unemployment benefits to assure that no congressman could vote against it (crap like that should be illegal), and is estimated to cost another $10 billion that we don’t have (so you can expect it to cost at least $20 billion). Oh, and just for kicks they threw $33 billion in tax refunds to homebuilders into the bill, too. Because the national debt just wasn’t big enough already. Super!

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October Reporting Roundup: Happy Fun Tax Credit Party Time!

By The Tim on November 6th, 2009 at 8:00 AM · 56 Comments

Time for the monthly reporting roundup, where I read all the local paper rehashes of the NWMLS press release so you don’t have to.

Here’s a link to this month’s NWMLS press release: Tax credit spurs big surge in Western Washington home sales

Before we get into the roundup, I’d like to take a moment to quote an excerpt from the monthly NWMLS data post from May, which was titled Huge Gap Opening Between Pending and Closed Sales (a subject that I first brought to your attention in August of last year).

The disconnect between pending sales and closed sales grows ever larger. … Something is becoming extremely fishy about the pending sales data.

…it is good to keep in mind when you start reading news reports in the coming weeks about the market supposedly picking back up. It’s an illusion.

Here’s a graphical representation of the 2009 sales illusion:

2009 Pending and Closed King Co. SFH Sales

Pending sales peaked at 2,447 in June, while so far closed sales have not made it higher than 1,758—a nearly 30% discrepancy. So far this year there have been at total of 20,025 pending SFH sales in King County, but only 12,986 actual closed sales. In other words, more than a third (35%) of pending sales have yet to materialize into closed sales. That difference is typically well under 10%.

Find me a newspaper that reported this growing issue last August.

Click below for this month’s roundup of gawking at the tax credit.

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Extension to Fraud-Laced $8k Homebuyer Tax Credit to Piggy-Back on Unemployment Bill?

By The Tim on October 21st, 2009 at 6:00 AM · 38 Comments

Here’s a pair of somewhat conflicting stories about the push to extend and expand the inefficient, expensive, economically stupid $8,000 first-time homebuyer tax credit.

From the real estate news source Inman News: Final push for tax credit

Real estate industry trade groups are mounting a final push for an extension of the first-time homebuyer tax credit, with Sen. Johnny Isakson planning to tie the issue to an extension of unemployment benefits.

In testimony before the Senate Banking Committee today, Isakson, R-Ga., said he plans to introduce an amendment to legislation extending unemployment benefits that would make the current $8,000 tax credit available until June 30.

Isakson’s amendment would raise the income limits for the credit to $150,000 for individuals and $300,000 for a couples. The existing tax credit can’t be claimed by individuals making more than $95,000 or couples with adjusted incomes of more than $170,000.

The estimated cost of his latest proposal would be $16.7 billion over five years, Isakson said, citing the Joint Committee on Taxation.

So apparently the latest plan is to pull a common DC trick and tack the bill onto something else that would be political suicide to vote against. This disgusting ploy usually works, and if they pull off adding it to the unemployment bill, it is almost guaranteed to be passed. Also, considering that the current credit is probably going to cost in excess of $15 billion versus an original estimate of $6.6 billion, it seems likely that if passed, this proposal would cost us another $30 billion or more that we don’t have.

Next up we have a different outlook on the credit, via Calculated Risk: Home Buyer Tax Credit DOA?

From Reuters: White House skeptical on renewing home buyers credit

And more from Reuters on the widespread fraud: IRS warned again of U.S. homebuyer credit fraud

From Diana Olick at CNBC: HUD Hints on Home Buyer Tax Credit . Olick reviews Donovan’s testimony and writes:

[T]hat sounded more like a “No” to me than a “Yes.”

And Rex Nutting at MarketWatch reviews many of the arguments against the tax credit: Kill the wasteful home-buyer tax credit

Note in the second story CR points out that the IRS “has opened 107,000 civil cases related to the credit.” If we go by the NAR estimate that around 1.9 million buyers “will take advantage of the $8,000 tax credit this year,” the 107,000 civil cases represent a potential fraud rate of over 5%. Who could have guessed that when the government starts handing out free money, people would race to game the system?

I apologize for the overload of posts recently regarding the $8,000 tax credit, but I feel strongly this is an important issue related to real estate. The tax credit is wasting money, harming potential buyers by hampering the natural correction of the market, and helping to push the rental vacancy rate higher, which causes further pain for local and regional banks. The government needs to stop trying to prop up a broken market and let home prices fully correct.

Here is the contact info for our senators. I encourage you to call or fax them and encourage them to vote against any form of extension, renewal, or expansion of this wasteful and counter-productive spending spree.

Patty Murray
Phone: 202.224.2621
Fax: 202.224.0238

Maria Cantwell
Phone: 202.224.3441
Fax: 202.228.0514

[This story was corrected on 10/20 at 11:00 AM to indicate that the 107,000 civil cases opened by the IRS represent potential fraud, not necessarily actual fraud.]

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Estimating the Local Effects and Aftermath of the $8,000 Tax Credit

By The Tim on October 16th, 2009 at 6:00 AM · 60 Comments

Organizations like the National Ass. of Realtors and the National Ass. of Home Builders have been throwing around estimates of how many sales have been “stimulated” by the $8,000 tax credit nationwide, and a recent editorial by Washington State Treasurer James McIntire in favor of the inefficient, expensive, and economically stupid program throws out a number of 7,000 “stimulated” sales statewide.

How many sales locally have been “stimulated” by this ridiculous giveaway of tens of billions of dollars we don’t even have? Let’s try to see if we can estimate the number of stimulated single-family house sales for King County, using some trend analysis of closed sales data from 2000 through 2008.

2000-2009 King Co. SFH Closed SalesKing Co. SFH Closed Sales (2009 Hypothetical)

At left above is a chart that includes total closed sales each month from 2000 through 2009, with October and November data this year projected based on the May – September performance. At right above is a chart of a hypothetical “worst case” scenario of sales volume we may have seen without the influence of the $8,000 tax credit, generated by taking the average month-to-month change for each month in 2000-2008, and applying that from month to month in 2009, moving forward from the number of actual sales in April.

King Co. SFH Projected Sales: January - November 2009The “worst case” estimate at right above most likely understates the number of sales that would have taken place without the tax credit, since decreasing prices were already beginning to stimulate sales anyway, but for the sake of argument, let’s go with this estimate. Using the above estimates, we arrive at a total number of 3,850 tax credit “stimulated” sales of single-family houses in King County.

If we assume that 100% of the stimulated sales and 75% of the “worst case” baseline sales (i.e. – sales that would have happened anyway without the tax credit) were qualified first-time homebuyers, we can calculate that 11,911 sales will qualify this year for the tax credit. That’s a total cost to (future) U.S. taxpayers of over $95 million, for 3,850 “stimulated” SFH sales in King County—$25,000 per sale.

This is actually quite a bit lower than the nationwide estimates I have seen elsewhere, which put the cost per “stimulated” sale at around $43,000, which means we’re probably over-estimating the number of “stimulated” sales. With 60% as many “stimulated” sales (2,310), the cost per “stimulated” sale comes out to around $40,000.

If we assume that the lower number (2,310) is more reflective of reality and that roughly 90% of these sales were not pulled from thin air, but were in fact merely borrowed from 2010, we can calculate the approximate effect of the expiring tax credit on 2010 sales. Based on those assumptions, once the tax credit expires, we can expect sales to come in roughly 125 to 200 lower than they otherwise would have each month throughout 2010.

King Co. SFH Closed Sales (2010 Hypothetical)

Of course, that assumes that the tax credit will be allowed to expire, which is looking less and less likely. Not that extending it another six months to a year will somehow prevent the market from having to pay back the borrowed sales eventually (at a greater and greater cost the longer it is deferred), but why should pesky little economic realities prevent Congress from spending billions of additional dollars that we don’t have?

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Lawrence Yun: “Home values have overshot downward”

By The Tim on October 11th, 2009 at 3:58 PM · 48 Comments

In case there is any doubt about whether NAR chief “economist” Lawrence Yun is just as much of a shameless price-boosting shill as his predecessor David Lereah, I present some excerpts from a post he made on Friday regarding the inefficient, expensive, and economically stupid homebuyer tax credit: Unleashing Pent-Up Housing Demand and Sustainable Economic Recovery

There is no delight in watching the budget deficit soar. The $1.4 trillion deficit in the completed 2009 fiscal year to September is the highest ever in the U.S. in sheer dollar figures, and the highest since the Second World War if measured in relation to the overall economic pie. It’s a huge burden to the future generation and could easily cause interest rates to rise much sooner and quite sharply. Washington needs to come out with a credible plan to reduce the deficit over time.

However, one area where federal taxpayer dollars have effectively been utilized is in providing a homebuyer tax credit. The key to any future sustainable economic recovery lies in home values stabilizing or, better yet, a return to a historical appreciation rate of 3 to 5 percent each year. The bubble prices crash landed. All the excesses have already been removed. In fact, one could legitimately argue that home values have overshot downward.

It would be an utter pity if the housing market, just at the cusp of self-sustaining recovery, rolls downhill again. That could indeed happen if potential buyers step back and inventory again climbs. Falling home values – independent of whether overcorrecting is happening or not – will bring back all the associated collateral damage.

A much happier scenario would be that the buying momentum continues for few additional quarters such that inventory falls back down to the normal 5 to 7 months, a level consistent with home value stabilization. Once that is accomplished, the consumer “fear factor” of waiting and waiting for a lower price later down the road will no longer be part of home buying decision.

For that happy scenario to play out, a time extension on the home buyer tax credit is critically needed.

Unfortunately the full post is available only to registered members of the real estate professional’s social network ActiveRain. If you for some reason have a desire to read the whole thing, drop me an email and I can email it to you.

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Poll: What is the chance the housing tax credit gets extended/expanded?

By The Tim on October 11th, 2009 at 12:05 AM · 4 Comments

Please vote in this poll using the sidebar.
Props to AMS for the poll idea.

What is the chance the housing tax credit gets extended/expanded?

  • None (5%, 5 Votes)
  • Low (9%, 10 Votes)
  • Medium (21%, 23 Votes)
  • High (51%, 57 Votes)
  • Done Deal (14%, 16 Votes)

Total Voters: 111


This poll will be active and displayed on the sidebar through 10.17.2009.

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