Equity Stompin' Comp Killers

edited April 2009 in Seattle Real Estate
With growing evidence that our market's no longer headed up I thought I'd start a parallel thread to the Audacious Flips and Renovations, this time focusing on "Comp Killers", homes that are for sale well below peak prices. I'll start off with this Greenwood REO on the market for 10% off what it sold for two years ago:

Current Price: $499,000
04/12/2007 $494,481 -9.9%/yr (foreclosure)
01/31/2006 $560,000 105.1%/yr
05/17/2005 $336,500 9.0%/yr

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/print ... id=1260459

Worth noting that this has been on the market for 60 days now, suggesting it's got a ways further to go to find the market price.
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  • Here is a propety in Snoqualmie Ridge (Quadrant Home) listed well below (12%) its last sale price in June of 2006. I stopped by a new home development about a month ago and they had recently dropped their asking prices by 50K.

    http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/print ... id=1288474
  • Here is another one on the east side. The price difference is not much, ~$11,000, but the rollback is past Oct 2005.

    http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1223463
  • "Here's to you Mr. and Mrs. too much home buyer, because Ramen tastes so much better when eaten off a granite counter top"

    Damn, they didn't last long at all. By May 2007 they were already $15K behind on the mortgage. And this home is in the good part of the highlands - Issaquah School district.

    12514 145th Pl SE
    Renton, WA 98059

    Sold 10/11/2006: $593,300
    Current Asking Price: $499,950

    http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/print ... id=1154075
  • ruisenor wrote:
    Here is a propety in Snoqualmie Ridge (Quadrant Home) listed well below (12%) its last sale price in June of 2006. I stopped by a new home development about a month ago and they had recently dropped their asking prices by 50K.

    Ouch. I know a guy that just bought a 1500 sq ft home in that neighborhood for $5K more Spring 2007. He is (or was) a mortgage broker at WaMu no less.
  • edited January 2008
    http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/print ... id=1265228

    Asking $254k. Sold in 2005 for $310k.

    edited to add the address
    2409 Aberdeen Ave NE
    Renton, WA 98056
  • http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/print ... id=1181894

    Sold a year ago for $470k
    Now listed for $350k
  • laxtosnoco wrote:
    http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1181894

    Sold a year ago for $470k
    Now listed for $350k

    Wow.

    Now on the market for the 3rd time in three years makes you wonder if something funny is going on. Sold for 400k in Dec 05.

    A great comp killer.
  • laxtosnoco wrote:
    http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1181894

    Sold a year ago for $470k
    Now listed for $350k

    910 N 82nd St
    Seattle, WA 98103

    The current owner is in foreclosure (surprise) and he also bought the house from someone facing foreclosure. These "double FC's" are interesting. If I had to guess, the current owner was fresh out of a "how to make money buying foreclosures" seminar and in his haste to make his first deal he grossly overpaid. Either that, or the house is just a horrible money pit bankrupting owner after owner.

    Also, would it be too much to ask that you guys post the addresses in the thread? It makes it easier to look up the sales history once these places have gone off the market.
  • deeplennon wrote:
    laxtosnoco wrote:
    http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1181894

    Sold a year ago for $470k
    Now listed for $350k

    Wow.

    Now on the market for the 3rd time in three years makes you wonder if something funny is going on. Sold for 400k in Dec 05.

    A great comp killer.

    What a tiny house-- and half a block off Aurora, love it!
  • mike2 wrote:

    Also, would it be too much to ask that you guys post the addresses in the thread? It makes it easier to look up the sales history once these places have gone off the market.

    It also gets the post to return as a hit in Google when someone searches on the address. In other words...when someone thinking about buying a house searches for it in Google they end up with a link to Seattle Bubble.

    :twisted:
  • http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/print ... id=1371521

    It looks like someone purchased the site, had a home built in 2000 and then couldn't pay for it. Property tax lean, foreclosure. Looks like the bank is anxious to sell it. Zillow extimates $1,385,00; offered at $999,900.

    This is a comp killer!

    Only foreclosure, at the moment, on BI. With 8 at some stage of preforeclosure it won't be lonely long.
  • http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1371521

    Zillow extimates $1,385,00; offered at $999,900.

    This is a comp killer!

    I don't directly put any weight in the Zestimate, but this is definitely bad news for this neighboring property:
    http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/print ... id=1196338

    Around half the acreage/half the square footage and offered at $1.269MM. Apply the same price per square foot as the killer property and that would be more like $600K. Ouch.
  • edited May 2008
    Here's a condo over at Riverview that is down 9%.

    22213 42nd Ave S #204
    Kent, WA 98032

    Asking Price: $245,000
    Previously sold 08/16/2006 $269,000


    http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/print ... id=1363243

    EDIT: Now asking $200K. Down 25% from August 2006.
  • http://redfin.com/stingray/do/printable ... id=1393789

    34602 SE Linden Lp
    Snoqualmie, WA 98065

    01/05/2006: $465,500

    Now: $439,900

    Snoqualmie Ridge is hurting big time.
  • http://redfin.com/stingray/do/printable ... id=1394522

    Look at the sales history on this it must be a short sale but over 150k down in only 6 months, seems fishy to me. The lot size must be wrong as well I drive by this everyday and no way is it only 2k sq ft lot.
  • More Snoqualmie Ridge fun:

    http://redfin.com/stingray/do/printable ... -id=880574

    6431 W Crest View Lp SE
    Snoqualmie, WA 98065

    06/30/2006: $699,900
    Price: $684,950

    Just lowered the price today.
  • This one I would buy if only it would get closer to the 300-320k range. But still quite a nice drop from original asking price.
  • This one I would buy if only it would get closer to the 300-320k range. But still quite a nice drop from original asking price.

    Wow! I don't follow that area much, but that seems like a pretty decent house. The price decreases are hilarious. Why not just take off a buck every minute until you get a bite? :)
  • Anyone starting to notice more bank-owned properties? This one is in my target area: http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/print ... id=1408016

    Address:
    4811 Seahurst Ave
    Everett, WA 98203

    Last sale price (excepting the trustee sale) was $417k.
    Current list is $319k.

    Why can't lender owned properties take some nice pictures? It's too much trouble to close the kitchen cabinets and pick up a little trash?
  • Hey, cool. Comes with free stuff in the kitchen!

    Seriously though, that's a lot of square footage for being a 2/2.
  • 2369 132nd Ave SE BellevueWA 98005

    Sold 11/30/2006: $685,000
    Pending (as of 1/22/2008): $630,000
    8% drop in a little over a year.
    Pending, not sold yet, according to the RE agent.

    This is fairly close to where I live so it's nice to see that we're probably already 10% off the peak.
  • 2369 132nd Ave SE BellevueWA 98005

    Sold 11/30/2006: $685,000
    Pending (as of 1/22/2008): $630,000
    8% drop in a little over a year.
    Pending, not sold yet, according to the RE agent.

    This is fairly close to where I live so it's nice to see that we're probably already 10% off the peak.

    It seems the peak is somewhere in the Spring/Summer 2007 time period for a lot of areas, so it's possible that it would have sold for more in early 2007. So we could actually be somewhere in the 10-15% off peak, depending on whether the current seller overpaid for the house originally.
  • This little old house has been on the market below the 2006 purchase price for many moons now. I think the lack of parking and the fact that half of the square footage seems to be in the basement is putting a damper on its saleability in this down market.

    http://redfin.com/stingray/do/printable ... id=1024462

    2844 SW Nevada St
    Price: $299,250
    Last sale: 02/01/2006 $302,000
  • This sale history is more like what I'm used to seeing in Fairfax county. Though in Fairfax there would be no chance that it would sell near the 2007 price. In Woodinville, there is still a glimmer of hope.

    http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/print ... id=1423946

    14910 NE Woodinville Duvall Rd
    Woodinville, WA 98072

    Asking price: $659,300

    Sales History
    Date Price Appreciation
    12/05/2007 $515,698 -29.1%/yr
    01/22/2007 $695,000 10.1%/yr
    10/22/1992 $176,000 -28.1%/yr
    11/13/1991 $240,000 --

    As a side note, the information available on RedFin in the Seattle area is far less revealing than what I'm seeing in the DC area. This ad says "the seller got a job offer in another state". Are we to assume that the new employer is eating the loss here? Whatever the case, if the $515K sale price is a highly suspect.
  • This one I would buy if only it would get closer to the 300-320k range. But still quite a nice drop from original asking price.
    Looks like they started way too high. At the peak of the bubble you could get a similar house in Issaquah for $425K.
  • mike2 wrote:
    This sale history is more like what I'm used to seeing in Fairfax county. .....

    ....As a side note, the information available on RedFin in the Seattle area is far less revealing than what I'm seeing in the DC area. This ad says "the seller got a job offer in another state". Are we to assume that the new employer is eating the loss here? Whatever the case, if the $515K sale price is a highly suspect.

    This next year there will be A LOT of homes up for sale in the DC area because of the change of administrations. Appointees need to find a soft place to land and typically resign as soon as they have a job offer. This happens, at a minimum, every 8 years. [Leaving the political prognostications to others...] Replacement hires may need to rent if they can't sell their homes.
  • Here is a place in my hood. I have watched it change hands several times in the last few years. Get a load of the sales history.
    http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/print ... id=1366637
  • Here is a place in my hood. I have watched it change hands several times in the last few years. Get a load of the sales history.
    http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/print ... id=1366637
    Wow. Look how far off Zillow is. Perhaps it's the only "just shy of 200 sq ft" home around there? It will be interesting to see if the seller really got a good deal a month ago.
  • Markor wrote:
    Here is a place in my hood. I have watched it change hands several times in the last few years. Get a load of the sales history.
    http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/print ... id=1366637
    Wow. Look how far off Zillow is. Perhaps it's the only "just shy of 200 sq ft" home around there? It will be interesting to see if the seller really got a good deal a month ago.

    This has to be mortgage fraud. $840K for this place a year ago is completely nuts. Foreclosed in under a year, I wonder if they ever made a single payment? Perhaps we could persuade a local news outlet to look into this one? If someone stole $300K in cash from a bank they'd break into Dance War live to tell us about it.
  • enatai wrote:
    Here is a place in my hood. I have watched it change hands several times in the last few years. Get a load of the sales history.
    http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/print ... id=1366637

    So a quick peek at King Co. records shows that there was an NTS on the previous purchaser as well (Jeanie Holland), bailed out at the last second (at exactly $100K higher?) by the last purchaser (Hector Martinez), who stopped paying in April and got another NTS by August of last year. You said you watched it change hands, did these people actually move in, or were they just straw buyers?
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